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03-03-2017, 08:36 AM
#1751
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Originally Posted by Tyler253
I'm at SkyWest. I was looking at NetJets because of the pay. It seems like a good deal cause youll make just as much as a legacy guy but in shorter time. What are upgrade times and how fast could someone get a SEA base?
For basing, any of the bases avilable to you can be used from day 1. You tell the company which base you will use. Minimum 15-day notice to change bases.
03-03-2017, 02:35 PM
#1752
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Originally Posted by Roper92
Well for starters, there are many out there that simply cannot afford to work for places like Spirit & Frontier. That is nice you were able to take such a substantial pay cut, but many cannot do that. It would take years to recoup that money.
03-04-2017, 08:00 AM
#1753
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NetJets is an excellent place to go and retire a second time if you are 60+ and just want to fly til you die. My buddy said he had a 77 year old in his sovereign class last month.
If you need to get recurrent again or transition out of the Military it can also be a good move. I would go to NJ over a regional any day, unless I needed TPIC time.
DO NOT GO TO NETJETS IF YOU NEED TURBINE PIC TIME.
That being said.... I wouldn't bank on long term employment OR building a nice retirement as compared to what you can get with a 121 carrier.
With almost 13 years in... I left in Oct. and took the $158,000 in buyout money and went to UPS. To date, we have hired 6 NJ pilots and more are interviewing.
Companies like mine see the value in NetJets pilots because they work their @ss off doing EVERYTHING plus flying the plane. It's also a Part 121 training program which means they are familiar with the books and flows.
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If you need to get recurrent again or transition out of the Military it can also be a good move. I would go to NJ over a regional any day, unless I needed TPIC time.
DO NOT GO TO NETJETS IF YOU NEED TURBINE PIC TIME.
That being said.... I wouldn't bank on long term employment OR building a nice retirement as compared to what you can get with a 121 carrier.
With almost 13 years in... I left in Oct. and took the $158,000 in buyout money and went to UPS. To date, we have hired 6 NJ pilots and more are interviewing.
Companies like mine see the value in NetJets pilots because they work their @ss off doing EVERYTHING plus flying the plane. It's also a Part 121 training program which means they are familiar with the books and flows.
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03-04-2017, 08:44 AM
#1754
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Question straight out of right field. I am sure the answer is no, but I can be optimistic. Are there overseas home bases the company will pay to commute you from? Specifically FRA. At some point I will need 500 hours of jet time (Any Jet, Any Seat) or large turboprop (Q400 or ATR) for a German job and I am exploring all my options. If I bought my own tickets to the states to get to work I would spend half my salary on airfares.
03-04-2017, 09:22 AM
#1756
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Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
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Originally Posted by G550Guy
NetJets is an excellent place to go and retire a second time if you are 60+ and just want to fly til you die. My buddy said he had a 77 year old in his sovereign class last month.
If you need to get recurrent again or transition out of the Military it can also be a good move. I would go to NJ over a regional any day, unless I needed TPIC time.
DO NOT GO TO NETJETS IF YOU NEED TURBINE PIC TIME.
That being said.... I wouldn't bank on long term employment OR building a nice retirement as compared to what you can get with a 121 carrier.
With almost 13 years in... I left in Oct. and took the $158,000 in buyout money and went to UPS. To date, we have hired 6 NJ pilots and more are interviewing.
Companies like mine see the value in NetJets pilots because they work their @ss off doing EVERYTHING plus flying the plane. It's also a Part 121 training program which means they are familiar with the books and flows.
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If you need to get recurrent again or transition out of the Military it can also be a good move. I would go to NJ over a regional any day, unless I needed TPIC time.
DO NOT GO TO NETJETS IF YOU NEED TURBINE PIC TIME.
That being said.... I wouldn't bank on long term employment OR building a nice retirement as compared to what you can get with a 121 carrier.
With almost 13 years in... I left in Oct. and took the $158,000 in buyout money and went to UPS. To date, we have hired 6 NJ pilots and more are interviewing.
Companies like mine see the value in NetJets pilots because they work their @ss off doing EVERYTHING plus flying the plane. It's also a Part 121 training program which means they are familiar with the books and flows.
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03-04-2017, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 727C47
I'm gratified that UPS appreciates our guys, and that United , and other legacies do too, it says a lot about the quality of the guys and girls who fly here.
It absolutely does! When you closely examine the day-in day-out flying that NJ does compared to any 121 operator... you can see the quality and professionalism NJ pilots must posses to operate successfully.
I think the legacies are beginning to see this in a big time way.
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03-04-2017, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler253
I'm at SkyWest. I was looking at NetJets because of the pay. It seems like a good deal cause youll make just as much as a legacy guy but in shorter time.
It took me until this year, hitting 11th-year FO at Netjets, to break $100,000. 10th year FO at Delta in a 737 is $139K. Assuming you could get into a widebody by then (very likely), you're talking $165K.
A legacy guy will make more money than a Netjets guy every single year.
What are upgrade times and how fast could someone get a SEA base?
Upgrade? Your guess is as good as mine. As I mentioned before, I'm an 11th year FO, and not by choice. There are several hundred ahead of me, and I can count the upgrades in the last few years on my fingers. When my number does come, it'll be upgrade into a tiny Phenom 300, where I'll likely be stuck for at least a decade.
I like the job and the benefits, but as a career, it's truly a dead end for a newhire.
03-04-2017, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
I think you're greatly misreading things, unfortunately. According to APC's numbers, a second-year Delta MD-88 FO, for example, makes $92K just at minimum 65-hour guarantee. 5th year, just under $118K.
It took me until this year, hitting 11th-year FO at Netjets, to break $100,000. 10th year FO at Delta in a 737 is $139K. Assuming you could get into a widebody by then (very likely), you're talking $165K.
A legacy guy will make more money than a Netjets guy every single year.
SEA base would happen on day 1. Our bases are not based on equipment, seniority, or seat position.
Upgrade? Your guess is as good as mine. As I mentioned before, I'm an 11th year FO, and not by choice. There are several hundred ahead of me, and I can count the upgrades in the last few years on my fingers. When my number does come, it'll be upgrade into a tiny Phenom 300, where I'll likely be stuck for at least a decade.
I like the job and the benefits, but as a career, it's truly a dead end for a newhire.
It took me until this year, hitting 11th-year FO at Netjets, to break $100,000. 10th year FO at Delta in a 737 is $139K. Assuming you could get into a widebody by then (very likely), you're talking $165K.
A legacy guy will make more money than a Netjets guy every single year.
SEA base would happen on day 1. Our bases are not based on equipment, seniority, or seat position.
Upgrade? Your guess is as good as mine. As I mentioned before, I'm an 11th year FO, and not by choice. There are several hundred ahead of me, and I can count the upgrades in the last few years on my fingers. When my number does come, it'll be upgrade into a tiny Phenom 300, where I'll likely be stuck for at least a decade.
I like the job and the benefits, but as a career, it's truly a dead end for a newhire.
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