I'm at SkyWest. I was looking at NetJets because of the pay. It seems like a good deal cause youll make just as much as a legacy guy but in shorter time. What are upgrade times and how fast could someone get a SEA base?

 

Wait, what? Are you looking at the same pay scales that I am?

For basing, any of the bases avilable to you can be used from day 1. You tell the company which base you will use. Minimum 15-day notice to change bases.

 

Do you already have your PIC time? That is something else a new hire, or anyone else hired in the last decade, will never see. That said, the game is changing a bit and maybe PIC time isn't what it used to be.

 

NetJets is an excellent place to go and retire a second time if you are 60+ and just want to fly til you die. My buddy said he had a 77 year old in his sovereign class last month.

If you need to get recurrent again or transition out of the Military it can also be a good move. I would go to NJ over a regional any day, unless I needed TPIC time.

DO NOT GO TO NETJETS IF YOU NEED TURBINE PIC TIME.

That being said.... I wouldn't bank on long term employment OR building a nice retirement as compared to what you can get with a 121 carrier.

With almost 13 years in... I left in Oct. and took the $158,000 in buyout money and went to UPS. To date, we have hired 6 NJ pilots and more are interviewing.

Companies like mine see the value in NetJets pilots because they work their @ss off doing EVERYTHING plus flying the plane. It's also a Part 121 training program which means they are familiar with the books and flows.




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Question straight out of right field. I am sure the answer is no, but I can be optimistic. Are there overseas home bases the company will pay to commute you from? Specifically FRA. At some point I will need 500 hours of jet time (Any Jet, Any Seat) or large turboprop (Q400 or ATR) for a German job and I am exploring all my options. If I bought my own tickets to the states to get to work I would spend half my salary on airfares.

 

None buddy, sorry

 

He's right about TPIC time, it will take awhile to get it here, I'm gratified that UPS appreciates our guys, and that United , and other legacies do too, it says a lot about the quality of the guys and girls who fly here. Cheers G550, I'm still a freightdog at heart ❤️

 

It absolutely does! When you closely examine the day-in day-out flying that NJ does compared to any 121 operator... you can see the quality and professionalism NJ pilots must posses to operate successfully.

I think the legacies are beginning to see this in a big time way.



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Both Alaska and Virgin commented on the quality of skills from NetJets pilots coming on board.

 

I think you're greatly misreading things, unfortunately. According to APC's numbers, a second-year Delta MD-88 FO, for example, makes $92K just at minimum 65-hour guarantee. 5th year, just under $118K.

It took me until this year, hitting 11th-year FO at Netjets, to break $100,000. 10th year FO at Delta in a 737 is $139K. Assuming you could get into a widebody by then (very likely), you're talking $165K.

A legacy guy will make more money than a Netjets guy every single year.

SEA base would happen on day 1. Our bases are not based on equipment, seniority, or seat position.

Upgrade? Your guess is as good as mine. As I mentioned before, I'm an 11th year FO, and not by choice. There are several hundred ahead of me, and I can count the upgrades in the last few years on my fingers. When my number does come, it'll be upgrade into a tiny Phenom 300, where I'll likely be stuck for at least a decade.

I like the job and the benefits, but as a career, it's truly a dead end for a newhire.