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Old 03-06-2017 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22
Everything ebb and flows... then comes the furloughs and downgrades.
I thought that was always implied when we talk about aviation careers. I was simply letting them know what is currently happening.
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
I thought that was always implied when we talk about aviation careers. I was simply letting them know what is currently happening.


Correct.

Airspeed trend vs airspeed indexer.

Vastly different things.
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22
Correct.

Airspeed trend vs airspeed indexer.

Vastly different things.
So then why talk about impending furloughs and downgrades like NetJets is immune?
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
So then why talk about impending furloughs and downgrades like NetJets is immune?


Airlines furlough thousands for any that NJA has ever furloughed.

That... with NAI... age 67... hmmmm. Sounds like there's risk all around.

I'll but my bets on big money. They're always rich.

How's class?
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22
Airlines furlough thousands for any that NJA has ever furloughed.

That... with NAI... age 67... hmmmm. Sounds like there's risk all around.

I'll but my bets on big money. They're always rich.

How's class?
Percentages dude. The numbers don't matter. What is the percentage? Last I checked NetJets was the last to furlough, last to recall and it furloughed 19% of its workforce.

I mean do you even remember the furlough, and WHY they furloughed? Good grief, the market took a dump and all the rich people lost their jet allowance. You think that can't happen again?
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:12 PM
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NJA furloughed 20% of their seniority list in one shot. Hardly a trivial number.
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
Percentages dude. The numbers don't matter. What is the percentage? Last I checked NetJets was the last to furlough, last to recall and it furloughed 19% of its workforce.



I mean do you even remember the furlough, and WHY they furloughed? Good grief, the market took a dump and all the rich people lost their jet allowance. You think that can't happen again?


I lived through it.

Still here.

Ancient history of you. Smooth sailing, no worries.

I'm sure your seas ahead are clear of trial, trepidation and turbulence.

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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22
I lived through it.

Still here.

Ancient history of you. Smooth sailing, no worries.

I'm sure your seas ahead are clear of trial, trepidation and turbulence.

I swear trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to talk to a child. Never have I seen the level of passive aggressive topic dodging and derailing, and this goes for the MB as well.

You lived through it, while 19% of your co-workers were on the street. You were ok so it doesn't matter, and it can't happen again, roger that.
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
NJA furloughed 20% of their seniority list in one shot. Hardly a trivial number.


16.5% of the combined NJA/NJI.

Close though.

US AIr furloughed 25% before it was all said and done....

Much deeper for a 6000 pilot group.

50,000 after 9/11 industry wide... NJA never hired so many as it did after 9/11.

But that goes back too far for Millennial Memories.
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Old 03-06-2017 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
I swear trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to talk to a child. Never have I seen the level of passive aggressive topic dodging and derailing, and this goes for the MB as well.



You lived through it, while 19% of your co-workers were on the street. You were ok so it doesn't matter, and it can't happen again, roger that.


Wash, rinse, repeat... aviation.

Anyone you can't win with in debate, you label. That's fine.

I'm not sure that will work long term but good luck. Sometimes, when you debate, you need a history of experience with the topic, a background of relevance and... a track record.

I hope what happened to many of us never knocks at your door.

It's not a happy time.

16.5%
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