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03-08-2013, 01:51 PM
#2593
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 399
Originally Posted by joethepilot
How the sequester affects you:
From: http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/medi..._Be_Closed.pdf
Here are the towers in our system that will be closing:
IAD System:
CKB
LWB
ATL System:
GLH
TUP
MEI
LWB
CLE System:
PKB
Montana System:
None
It should be noted that the only control tower in the Montana system was BIL
Florida System:
None
In other words, pretty much all of our outstations that had towers will no longer. A notable exception is MGW, which is not on the list.
From: http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/medi..._Be_Closed.pdf
Here are the towers in our system that will be closing:
IAD System:
CKB
LWB
ATL System:
GLH
TUP
MEI
LWB
CLE System:
PKB
Montana System:
None
It should be noted that the only control tower in the Montana system was BIL
Florida System:
None
In other words, pretty much all of our outstations that had towers will no longer. A notable exception is MGW, which is not on the list.
CKB and HPN had limited hours. I remember going into HPN being #4 after 11pm and you had to just figure it out. CKB we used to depart prior to the tower opening which was a pain in the ass.
Some guys would have no issue just blasting off VFR in the Saab and getting the clearance in the air.
03-08-2013, 06:32 PM
#2594
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Emb 170 FO
Posts: 104
Voice mail from silver today for class on the 25th of March but they didnt say which aircraft it is for. When I spoke to HR before my interview 4 weeks ago they said they were hiring into the Saab, but when I interviewed I was offered the B1900. I turned down the job and the next day HR called me and asked if I would be interested if a Saab position opened and I said yes. just wondering if anyone has any info on whats going on at silver.
03-09-2013, 06:36 PM
#2596
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 268
Originally Posted by v1valarob
Who cares? UNV, AOO, BKW, SHD, JHW, BFD are all places we flew to at Colgan without towers.
CKB and HPN had limited hours. I remember going into HPN being #4 after 11pm and you had to just figure it out. CKB we used to depart prior to the tower opening which was a pain in the ass.
Some guys would have no issue just blasting off VFR in the Saab and getting the clearance in the air.
CKB and HPN had limited hours. I remember going into HPN being #4 after 11pm and you had to just figure it out. CKB we used to depart prior to the tower opening which was a pain in the ass.
Some guys would have no issue just blasting off VFR in the Saab and getting the clearance in the air.
Some of the locations will be okay without towers. Some are going to be a royal pain in the butt. TUP comes to mind with all the T-6s coming up there and tying up the approaches in a non-radar environment.
03-09-2013, 08:23 PM
#2598
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: E-175 CA
Posts: 339
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Who says you can't take off VFR and get a clearance in the air? I've done it plenty of times heck that's the only way in the Bahamas pretty much.....
03-09-2013, 09:02 PM
#2599
Respek
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,603
Originally Posted by Bassman1985
Yeah, the islands is the only place we do that. All the time in the CLE system it was clearance on the ground before departure, usually at the hold short line. Even in severe clear conditions. Looks like the IAD and ATL systems will largely revert to that.
03-10-2013, 11:57 AM
#2600
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 268
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
I've done it at our non towered out stations in the ATL systems many a times. It's legal both per the FAR's and company op specs and much faster than waiting around on the phone, GCO, or through the crappy ground freqs for approach and center. Same thing up north in CLE heck most of the time that was the fastest and easiest way to make CRP up there.
Just because it is legal per the FARs, if company ops specs are more restrictive, they take precedence.
The company has made it clear that the only time we can depart VFR and pick up our IFR in the air is when departing from the Bahamas. So, who cares if it is faster. If it takes 20 minutes to get a clearance, oh well...
Besides... I've had more problems getting a clearance coming out of the Bahamas than I have using an GCO or calling the FSS.
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