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Since no one else answered you, no they haven't. Some fo's that had the ATP mins and did initial or transition training this last year did the ATP at the same time. I don't know if they're on crack or what. They only any out a email asking for people's times a couple weeks ago. Don't know the numbers but possibly there were a lot of fo's that are right down to the wire on getting the needed time?

Wow. Scary stuff. I have a feeling you guys are going to be vey short on FOs come August. At C5 they started our FOQ program back in January which gets you an ATP and a PIC type. From the sound of it, they're just barely going to get everyone done by August 1st.

jsfBoat

05-09-2013 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash (Post 1404629)

Just finished basic indoc, and all the associated tests... Good stuff.

Are any of you guys going to be DECs, or is that rumor I'm hearing?

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Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 1405586)

Using all ATPs is a dumb idea to just check a box, if we need to be typed in the aircraft I'm assuming it means full type not SIC? Wouldn't it be in their best interest just to send us back through the sim?

Learn the Systems of the Seminole, forget the B1900 or SF340 in the meantime, get the ATP, go back to Silver to relearn the Beech or Saab systems, and possibly into the sim to take what perhaps could be a proficiency check? Seems like we will have to go back to the sim anyways.

I hope the rumor of using ATP is just someone trying to be funny.

Salukipilot4590

05-09-2013 09:32 AM

ATP would make sense if someone JUST got done flying a Seminole before they came here.

Wouldn't be too bad.

....but someone like me with NO Piper ME time...it would be fun.

EatMyPropwash

05-09-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jsfBoat (Post 1406083)

Are any of you guys going to be DECs, or is that rumor I'm hearing?

Learn the Systems of the Seminole, forget the B1900 or SF340 in the meantime, get the ATP, go back to Silver to relearn the Beech or Saab systems, and possibly into the sim to take what perhaps could be a proficiency check? Seems like we will have to go back to the sim anyways.

I hope the rumor of using ATP is just someone trying to be funny.

Don't know what DEC means... tell and I shall answer. :-) . Rumors are rumors... they're all crap.

ctab5060X

05-09-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash (Post 1406376)

Don't know what DEC means... tell and I shall answer. :-) . Rumors are rumors... they're all crap.

DEC = Direct Entry Captain aka street captains.

JamesNoBrakes

05-09-2013 05:49 PM

Have a bad feeling that DECs will help to fill the "pilot shortage" due to lack of FO applicants...

Cruz5350

05-09-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1406494)

Have a bad feeling that DECs will help to fill the "pilot shortage" due to lack of FO applicants...

Don't they need a few landings from the right seat for them to be right seaters? If so how many DEC's are right seat checked out? I agree though I wouldn't be surprised if this happens.

Cruz5350

05-09-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jsfBoat (Post 1406083)

If you can learn systems on a Saab you can easily pickup the basics of the Seminole and slide right back into the Saab when it's all said and done.

ctab5060X

05-09-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1406663)

If you can learn systems on a Saab you can easily pickup the basics of the Seminole and slide right back into the Saab when it's all said and done.

But at what risk... a failed checkride?

Learning a Seminole for the pure purpose of "checking a box" with the new rule is absurd. You're making a jeopordy event that much harder.

It is only fair to allow the FOs to take an ATP/Type ride on the equipment they are currently qualified to operate.

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