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Old 08-22-2013, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by miller View Post
Combine that with a "flow" agreement and pilot supply, pay, and training problems are all taken care of. The consolidation effect seeps down from the majors to their regional "partners" to the flight schools. It's ab initio without a contract; brilliant for management but will kneecap our contract negotiations.
If you look closely some regionals are in the building process, Eagle actually is working on setting up something like this. They have programs in place where they will hire them as CFI and then contract them out to certain flight school, them to AE and then a "flow to AA". Now that last part remains to be seen. During the last offer management was trying to offer 50% of AA classes or a minimum of 25 a month to AA for all current and Eagle pilots and there is a video floating around where Scott Kirby mentiones being hired from school and given a path to mainline. They are and will do this but right now to put the final touches they want us to vote in concessions.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:57 PM
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They should have started programs a couple of years ago....

...Go to the universities/flight programs that will qualify for the 1,000 hour exemption. They could interview pilots at their Junior (3rd year) level in University and pick their favorite candidates.
They're already doing this. jetBlue / Cape Air was the first to my knowledge with their Gateway program with UND / ERAU. Started it 4-5 years ago and jetBlue has gotten a handful of pilots through the program so far.

Express Jet and Delta have also started a program, again through UND / ERAU.

Both work as you describe, except the time building isn't paid for.

Junior/Senior year Interview & Internship -> Instructing with University to 1000TT -> Transfer to Express Jet -> Guaranteed interview with Delta.

Delta keeps track of all academic, instruction, and Express Jet records and weights into the final hiring decision.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:51 AM
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How many flights a day is Lakes Air cancelling?
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iflythewest View Post
How many flights a day is Lakes Air cancelling?
Yes..........
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Old 08-26-2013, 04:56 PM
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Have they stop interviewing and hiring? I applied over a month ago and not a peep. I already have my ATP and thought they were needing people with my qualifications. What's going on over there? Are they just winding down their whole operation knowing they won't last long with the new ATP rule and soon to be DT/FT rules coming Jan 2014?
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Have they stop interviewing and hiring? I applied over a month ago and not a peep. I already have my ATP and thought they were needing people with my qualifications. What's going on over there? Are they just winding down their whole operation knowing they won't last long with the new ATP rule and soon to be DT/FT rules coming Jan 2014?
Why would anyone with their ATP apply at lakes? Do you have hundreds of failures and DUIs or something?
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:47 PM
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Just a little different situation then you I guess. I retired six years ago and flew contract till 2009 and went on a sabbatical till now. I haven't hit 50 yet so I still got some years left in the industry. I have not touched an airplane since I quite contract work in 2009. I was offered a DEC position at Gojet but turned it down because I will not commute. I have never flown a little turbo prop and that has been sparking my interests lately. Also I will not commute out of the DEN area and Great Lakes looks to be a perfect fit for my current situation. I really don't care about the low wages due to retirement income. I have young kids still in school so a commute is out of the question. I just need something to keep me busy and pays a little because while on sabbatical I was spending way too much in all the other hobbies I got into.
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Originally Posted by JetA Heartburn View Post
Just a little different situation then you I guess. I retired six years ago and flew contract till 2009 and went on a sabbatical till now. I haven't hit 50 yet so I still got some years left in the industry. I have not touched an airplane since I quite contract work in 2009. I was offered a DEC position at Gojet but turned it down because I will not commute. I have never flown a little turbo prop and that has been sparking my interests lately. Also I will not commute out of the DEN area and Great Lakes looks to be a perfect fit for my current situation. I really don't care about the low wages due to retirement income. I have young kids still in school so a commute is out of the question. I just need something to keep me busy and pays a little because while on sabbatical I was spending way too much in all the other hobbies I got into.
Why not Skywest, expressjet, or Republic? All have DEN bases.
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Old 08-26-2013, 06:22 PM
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I have an interview at Express jet in early Sept. but I've heard that DEN is really senior so that would mean a commute for me which I will not do. I also have an interview with RAH in mid Sept. I have heard that the Q400 in DEN is very senior and they are closing the EMB-170 or 190 base in DEN. Again that means I would have to commute. I have not put in at Skywest because they are only hiring into the EMB-120 which means a commute for me since they do not have a Brasilia base in DEN. I also put in at RAH/Frontier and was told all new hires would be going out to a new base on the east coast and DEN is very senior. Again this means a commute.
So it goes back my original question of what is going on at Great Lakes. Have they stopped all hiring and interviewing? Not that I'm dying to go work there, I just know for me that it would be a good fit since there is no way I will ever commute.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:11 PM
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The money Great Lakes pays isnt worth the time away from your young kids. Especially if youre just lookin for a little fun before retirement. They won't be young forever.
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