PenAir Pilots Fortress of Solitude
02-05-2017, 08:37 AM
#131
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Originally Posted by Greenlantern340
You can make more as an FO at Corvus than a captain at PenAir, you can make way more as a Caravan pilot at Grant. The point is if you want to fly for a regional why would you fly a 1980s turbo prop with rock bottom pay and a horrible schedule when you could fly for a regional that has competitive pay, new equipment, and decent schedules? If all your worried about is getting PIC time then there are so many other options if you want to live in the lower 48. If you don't care about pay or quality of life then PenAir would love to have you.
02-05-2017, 01:02 PM
#132
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I'm not management or recruiting, just a realist.
True, but if you want to get to The Show, 135 and/or SE turbine is about as useless as the runway behind you.
Unless you live in PenAir domicile in which they need pilots (i.e. NOT ANC). I blocked almost 90 hrs last month & credited 119, and was home 4 nights a week. So 119 x 30 = 3570 w/o the qtrly bonus which is another 750, so 4320 (52k/yr). Not quite up to the wholly owned's, but close.
And they may be old, but they are IMPECCABLY maintained. Maybe they could use some mx $ and up pilot pay?
Really? Where else could you upgrade in a year (or less) in a 121 ME Turbine? The Chief Pilot just put out a bid for upgrades and you need only 121 mins (i.e. ATP + 1000 121SIC, and I imagine, a rep for not being an idiot). "Captain Vacancy: 5 PDX, 6 DEN; SIC Vacancy: 7 DEN, 4 BOS." If have SAAB type, or boatloads of time in similar, street CA is not out of the question.
Originally Posted by Greenlantern340
You can make more as an FO at Corvus than a captain at PenAir, you can make way more as a Caravan pilot at Grant.
Originally Posted by Greenlantern340
The point is if you want to fly for a regional why would you fly a 1980s turbo prop with rock bottom pay and a horrible schedule when you could fly for a regional that has competitive pay, new equipment, and decent schedules?
And they may be old, but they are IMPECCABLY maintained. Maybe they could use some mx $ and up pilot pay?
Originally Posted by Greenlantern340
If all your worried about is getting PIC time then there are so many other options if you want to live in the lower 48.
Last edited by Case I; 02-05-2017 at 01:34 PM.
02-05-2017, 06:13 PM
#134
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00
The goal of a regional is to get to a major where the real money and QOL is at. If you want to just fly in Alaska for a regional or 135 There are better options than Pen Air but at least you can upgrade in decent time and get PIC. Ravn upgrade is 6+ and flying a caravan won't help moving up with thousands of retirements coming soon at the majors.
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And the goal of Boeing test pilot is Astronaut.
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02-06-2017, 08:20 PM
#137
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Originally Posted by Case I
I'm not management or recruiting, just a realist.
True, but if you want to get to The Show, 135 and/or SE turbine is about as useless as the runway behind you.
Unless you live in PenAir domicile in which they need pilots (i.e. NOT ANC). I blocked almost 90 hrs last month & credited 119, and was home 4 nights a week. So 119 x 30 = 3570 w/o the qtrly bonus which is another 750, so 4320 (52k/yr). Not quite up to the wholly owned's, but close.
And they may be old, but they are IMPECCABLY maintained. Maybe they could use some mx $ and up pilot pay?
Really? Where else could you upgrade in a year (or less) in a 121 ME Turbine? The Chief Pilot just put out a bid for upgrades and you need only 121 mins (i.e. ATP + 1000 121SIC, and I imagine, a rep for not being an idiot). "Captain Vacancy: 5 PDX, 6 DEN; SIC Vacancy: 7 DEN, 4 BOS." If have SAAB type, or boatloads of time in similar, street CA is not out of the question.
True, but if you want to get to The Show, 135 and/or SE turbine is about as useless as the runway behind you.
Unless you live in PenAir domicile in which they need pilots (i.e. NOT ANC). I blocked almost 90 hrs last month & credited 119, and was home 4 nights a week. So 119 x 30 = 3570 w/o the qtrly bonus which is another 750, so 4320 (52k/yr). Not quite up to the wholly owned's, but close.
And they may be old, but they are IMPECCABLY maintained. Maybe they could use some mx $ and up pilot pay?
Really? Where else could you upgrade in a year (or less) in a 121 ME Turbine? The Chief Pilot just put out a bid for upgrades and you need only 121 mins (i.e. ATP + 1000 121SIC, and I imagine, a rep for not being an idiot). "Captain Vacancy: 5 PDX, 6 DEN; SIC Vacancy: 7 DEN, 4 BOS." If have SAAB type, or boatloads of time in similar, street CA is not out of the question.
02-06-2017, 09:35 PM
#138
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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be
I am about ready to give up the left seat and go to Skywest just so I can have a life. I am getting so fed up for all the work I have to do for such crappy pay.
02-07-2017, 04:43 PM
#139
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Originally Posted by Deadpool
In desperate need of kneepads...
There is truth to what has been said here; specifically, ANC guys are getting jobbed with forced TDY. But if one lives in/near a lower 48 domicile, how is flying lotsa hours for average industry pay necessarily a bad thing?
02-07-2017, 06:05 PM
#140
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Originally Posted by Case I
Very articulate, DP. Would you care to specifically address any point of my rebuttal?
There is truth to what has been said here; specifically, ANC guys are getting jobbed with forced TDY. But if one lives in/near a lower 48 domicile, how is flying lotsa hours for average industry pay necessarily a bad thing?
There is truth to what has been said here; specifically, ANC guys are getting jobbed with forced TDY. But if one lives in/near a lower 48 domicile, how is flying lotsa hours for average industry pay necessarily a bad thing?
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