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widespreadflyer 09-27-2013 07:33 AM

4-6 Weeks to fly a C402? That could be pared down to about 5-6 days.

bzerbey 09-27-2013 11:29 AM

When did you interview for the Nov class?

9kBud 09-27-2013 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by widespreadflyer (Post 1491608)
4-6 Weeks to fly a C402? That could be pared down to about 5-6 days.

Granted there is a lot of down time during training, but I wouldn't want anybody flying my family single pilot in the northeast winters with only 5-6 days of training in type. It's not as easy of a job as you think it is, let me tell you.

Toonces 09-28-2013 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by 9kBud (Post 1492111)
Granted there is a lot of down time during training, but I wouldn't want anybody flying my family single pilot in the northeast winters with only 5-6 days of training in type. It's not as easy of a job as you think it is, let me tell you.

Correct me if I'm wrong 9k, but don't all new Captains fly with a FO for their first 50 or 100 hours anyway? That seems like a good cushion that would pad a reduced training track. I'm not going to disagree with you on the NE winters though...

9kBud 09-28-2013 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Toonces (Post 1492336)
Correct me if I'm wrong 9k, but don't all new Captains fly with a FO for their first 50 or 100 hours anyway? That seems like a good cushion that would pad a reduced training track. I'm not going to disagree with you on the NE winters though...

That is correct, high mins lasts for 100 hours, during which you fly with an FO unless you go VFR, then you can dump the FO if you have 9 pax. However, all that training is still very relevant, considering that single pilot CRM has a lot more to do with habit patterns and flow usage. Like any airplane you get used to it after a while, but when it hits the fan, it's far more difficult than anything I've encountered part 121. Quite a fun job though.

ackattacker 09-28-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by widespreadflyer (Post 1491608)
4-6 Weeks to fly a C402? That could be pared down to about 5-6 days.

That, my friend, is why Cape Air is still around after 24 years and just about every other fly-by-night 135 outfit has gone under. You have to actually give a "hoot" about safety. You'd be astounded at the washout rate from that 4-6 weeks of training. I'm sure those washouts got jobs flying 135 elsewhere with 5-6 days of training and a hearty "good luck out there!"

Bozo the pilot 09-28-2013 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by widespreadflyer (Post 1491608)
4-6 Weeks to fly a C402? That could be pared down to about 5-6 days.

You have no idea about Cape Air do you?

PDK1011 09-29-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by bzerbey (Post 1491797)
When did you interview for the Nov class?


ATL job fair Sept 14. Offered Sept 20. Class starts Nov 4....very excited. Was told 4 or 5 captains & 5-7 FOs maybe

PDK1011 09-30-2013 12:08 PM

Is about 1/3 of the 402 fleet still equipped with Garmin 430's(according to the APC page) or have they outfitted the whole fleet with them now?

9kBud 09-30-2013 03:50 PM

Now it's about 5/6 of the fleet that have them.


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