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Old 01-03-2007, 09:08 PM
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theyve had quite a few crashes one in een then mht the one down in sc and then one in ddh i think that was the most recent one
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:48 AM
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who to distrust more, their mainteneace department the training department, or Embraer?

I know it isn't the engines.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:57 PM
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heres the most recent one.

This is just ridiculous....
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...22X01221&key=1

Heres a ReCap:
08/04/06 VT 1 Fatal IFR CFIT On Appch Pilot Error
12/9/05 SC Fuel Starvation Blatent Pilot Error
11/08/05 MHT NH (Walmart) Engine Failure Pilot Initiated Vmc Roll???
01/13/05 EEN NH 1 Fatal IFR CFIT On Appch Pilot Error

So, in the course of 2 years: 2 dead pilots, 4 dead planes. Three of them are pilot error and probably the fourth as well.

Their equipment is probably ok, I would say its their training or their attitude, I don't know. But I do know that I don't think I would want to be associated with them.

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Old 01-05-2007, 12:12 AM
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Anyone know anything about Berry Aviation?
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AVIVIII View Post
who to distrust more, their mainteneace department the training department, or Embraer?

I know it isn't the engines.
Embrear's are just fine, we fly them thousands of hours per year. I highly suspect it's the fact that they're putting low time pilots in those things by them selves with no auto pilot. While the Bandit is a very easy A/C to fly when everything is working, I can see why you should have 2 pilots for when thing are going quite as planned.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:32 AM
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While the record no doubt looks bad, and it is possible that problems are present in the organization, a note of caution should be taken.

Aviation can reach up and bite anyone, and that should be remembered when questioning the safety record of a company. Sometime it may hit close to home, and the shoe will be on the other foot.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:16 AM
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It's true aviation can bit anyone, but when a trend appears that's a good indication of problems.
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:18 AM
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hey, I'm a skydive pilot. It takes a substantial problem for me to question safety...
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I'd say 4 crashes, 2 of them fatal are pretty damn substantial problems. Obviously they're doing something wrong.
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RedGuy View Post
I'd say 4 crashes, 2 of them fatal are pretty damn substantial problems. Obviously they're doing something wrong.
I don't really disagree with you here. That said, they aren't the only company in that tragic club.

Just don't get into the mindset of thinking that a fatal crash can not happen to your company.

Let's keep on watching ourselves out there.

Sobering link:
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

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