350 hours TT, Now What?
09-25-2010, 07:44 AM
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That is an asinine comment. A bachelor degree in Aviation Studies is a real degree. Who forged your degree, genius? Have something serious to say in my thread or take your comments elsewhere. You are an example of the loopholes in the aviation community. Leadership and guidance is the spirit of my questions and all it harbors from you is sarcasm and ignorance. You should ground yourself.
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09-25-2010, 07:49 AM
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OP:
Do you have a CFI? If not, get one. If yes, start using it.
Quit acting like the world owes you anything because they don't. Graduating school with 350TT is your own fault so you should just own it and accept the fact that you'll be working a crappy job in the industry for awhile. Yes, I too graduated from Purdue a couple years ago. I had 1000/85 when I left campus. If the airlines were hiring at the time I'm sure I would have been in great shape, but since the industry tanked the year I left I'm still CFIing and now have about 2000TT.
Sure, sometimes I hate my life and wish I chose to do something else, but until I actually take the leap and leave the industry or get a better flying gig, I keep my head down and keep plugging away because complaining on the internet won't get you anywhere.
Do you have a CFI? If not, get one. If yes, start using it.
Quit acting like the world owes you anything because they don't. Graduating school with 350TT is your own fault so you should just own it and accept the fact that you'll be working a crappy job in the industry for awhile. Yes, I too graduated from Purdue a couple years ago. I had 1000/85 when I left campus. If the airlines were hiring at the time I'm sure I would have been in great shape, but since the industry tanked the year I left I'm still CFIing and now have about 2000TT.
Sure, sometimes I hate my life and wish I chose to do something else, but until I actually take the leap and leave the industry or get a better flying gig, I keep my head down and keep plugging away because complaining on the internet won't get you anywhere.
I mean seriously, with all due disrespect, did Purdue require their students to be literate? Did you even read anything you are responding to or did you have a case of verbal diaherra?
You hate your life? Seriously? Well, maybe you aren't of good moral character and in that case, you will never qualify for an ATP so that's good for the rest of us. Thanks for hating yourself.
Why ask if I am a CFI? The first sentance says I am a CFI/CFI-I and I am not complaining about the industry...I am asking people what their experience has been with websites such as findapilot or climbto350...etc...frickin genius.
Try reading.
Who would love to shoot approaches to mins with this guy? Who forged your 8710?
09-25-2010, 07:57 AM
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Good question. Back in 2004 when I was a 50 hour private pilot, I enrolled in an advanced turbine training academy in DeLand, FL. It was all Part61 training. Our instructors were furloughed airline guys and a couple of our sim instructors were moonlighting (Chautauqua FO's).
We had a month of intensive ground school covering systems, limitations, turbines...etc...it was taught by a retired United DC-10 captain. We had a BE200 Sim which we recieved a month of training. EP's, normal profiles, and we basically learned how to transition. It was comprehensive. It was a great education.
It was a huge learning curve. So after 2 months of ground/sim training, out to the practice area we went. After about 15 hours of dual, I passed my practical exam with the Feds for my private multi add on. The remaining hours accumulated during my commercial training and LOFT cross country's.
The place shut down in June 2005. That is an entirely different story.
09-25-2010, 08:00 AM
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Everyone has an opinion. Looks like you're no different.
Do you have anything smart to say? Like, my original thread asked questions about job boards. Do you have any best practices/worst practices when it comes to the job hunt or are you just going to mouth off about someone you've never flown with some more?
09-25-2010, 09:36 AM
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I was a 50 hour private pilot when I first flew a King Air A/B 90.
Everyone has an opinion. Looks like you're no different.
Do you have anything smart to say? Like, my original thread asked questions about job boards. Do you have any best practices/worst practices when it comes to the job hunt or are you just going to mouth off about someone you've never flown with some more?
Everyone has an opinion. Looks like you're no different.
Do you have anything smart to say? Like, my original thread asked questions about job boards. Do you have any best practices/worst practices when it comes to the job hunt or are you just going to mouth off about someone you've never flown with some more?
I haven't used those sites yet, but when you do please let me know, I'm in the same situation 350TT but no King Air time. I might get a gig next year in a E90 for now CFI-I....I heard Climbto350 is good but there are way too many pilots on the site
09-25-2010, 10:33 AM
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I am a flight instructor, therefore paying 10 bucks a month for multiple sites means should I eat or should I look for a job. It's a tough decision.
09-25-2010, 10:40 AM
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I think Perdue has some kind of program where students get kingair time, and something tells me that he was logging PIC while also receiving dual. Be very careful using PIC logged legally, but where you weren't the actual person who signed for the aircraft- particularly when looking for jobs. What's legal for the FAA (and useful for meeting MEI minimums, for example) can still look like you're trying to misrepresent your experience to perspective employers.
(e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport, recreational, private, commercial, or airline transport pilot may log pilot in command flight time for flights-
(i) When the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated, or has sport pilot privileges for that category and class of aircraft, if the aircraft class rating is appropriate;
(ii) When the pilot is the sole occupant in the aircraft;
(iii) When the pilot, except for a holder of a sport or recreational pilot certificate, acts as pilot in command of an aircraft for which more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted; or
(iv) When the pilot performs the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a qualified pilot in command provided—
Blah Blah Blah
I don't think logging PIC time is as grey as you warned. As an instructor, I don't find that interpreting the reg is confusing.
2 cents...put it on my tab.
09-25-2010, 10:46 AM
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Well smarty, if he came from a school like I did, he took a ground school course which covered King Air Operations and systems, and he has a full King Air Manual. I'm guessing he'd probably do pretty well with systems questions on a King Air. "Tell me about a time" questions would be a bit more difficult.
If there is anyone out there interviewing who doesn't realize that (excepting a wealthy person flying their own aircraft) a 300 hour pilot probably isn't flying the King solo - then they are just to stupid to be let out in public. Of course they know he wasn't the only pilot in the A/C - they probably also understand the sort of program he came from and give due credit. News flash - no one "signs" for the aircraft under Part 91. It's under 12,500#, and he was sole manipulator - he can log PIC (what the insurance company requires doesn't count in this case).
If he indeed came from a good program, he was indeed manipulating the controls and doing a lot more than just "interacting with ATC." Is he ready to go operate a King Air solo - no, but give some credit where it's due.
On the other hand, I agree with those who've commented that at the end of 4 years in aviation studies you should have found ways to at least double if not triple or more the total time you have. That would be one of my first questions in an interview - what were you doing all that time? He should have had Comm/Inst at the end of two years and tacked on ME & CFI shortly thereafter, which would leave two years of virtually no flying. That's what I'd want to hear the answer to (and there could be legitimate reasons, but that low TT is going to be very limiting).
If there is anyone out there interviewing who doesn't realize that (excepting a wealthy person flying their own aircraft) a 300 hour pilot probably isn't flying the King solo - then they are just to stupid to be let out in public. Of course they know he wasn't the only pilot in the A/C - they probably also understand the sort of program he came from and give due credit. News flash - no one "signs" for the aircraft under Part 91. It's under 12,500#, and he was sole manipulator - he can log PIC (what the insurance company requires doesn't count in this case).
If he indeed came from a good program, he was indeed manipulating the controls and doing a lot more than just "interacting with ATC." Is he ready to go operate a King Air solo - no, but give some credit where it's due.
On the other hand, I agree with those who've commented that at the end of 4 years in aviation studies you should have found ways to at least double if not triple or more the total time you have. That would be one of my first questions in an interview - what were you doing all that time? He should have had Comm/Inst at the end of two years and tacked on ME & CFI shortly thereafter, which would leave two years of virtually no flying. That's what I'd want to hear the answer to (and there could be legitimate reasons, but that low TT is going to be very limiting).
Thank you for your comments. An MEI was always on board the BE90. It was a thorough and comprehensive training program. See my comments to USMCFlyer regarding the program.
I appreciate your candor. I posted a question about quality websites because I am looking for instructor jobs and I got trashed by people who didn't even fully read my post. The criticism I took with this thread was so irrelevant. I wanted to give you props for your objectivity. Nicely done.
09-26-2010, 05:53 AM
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milehigh,
To answer your question (cause obviously no one else did), personally I use two free websites instead of pay sites:
US Pilot dot com (I tried to link it but it wouldn't work), you have to register but its free and jobs are added every couple days. Be careful though, as some are reused from a while ago and the actual job is long gone.
and
Pilot Job Update, this one is completely anonymous and no registration is required. It was developed and maintained by UND grad (I know... the enemy
). Because a real person adds the jobs, you won't find any duplicates from old jobs. Another cool thing is that you can "like" it on facebook and you will see new job postings on your home page.
Good luck in your search!
To answer your question (cause obviously no one else did), personally I use two free websites instead of pay sites:
US Pilot dot com (I tried to link it but it wouldn't work), you have to register but its free and jobs are added every couple days. Be careful though, as some are reused from a while ago and the actual job is long gone.
and
Pilot Job Update, this one is completely anonymous and no registration is required. It was developed and maintained by UND grad (I know... the enemy
). Because a real person adds the jobs, you won't find any duplicates from old jobs. Another cool thing is that you can "like" it on facebook and you will see new job postings on your home page.Good luck in your search!
09-26-2010, 07:19 AM
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I appreciate your candor. I posted a question about quality websites because I am looking for instructor jobs and I got trashed by people who didn't even fully read my post. The criticism I took with this thread was so irrelevant. I wanted to give you props for your objectivity. Nicely done.
I think some of that came from your "righteous" postings. Just sayin.
Edit to add: It takes a humble attitude, a decent post count and some experince to get respect in most aviation forums. No one knows you yet, so make sure your first impressions are good ones, not smart or snide.
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