FAA Looking at VA Records (Indictments!)
09-01-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by trip
There’s a lot of military pilots receiving disability for tinnitus and other related ailments. I was told it easy, just go fill out the paperwork and get a check, I asked what about your medical? chirp chirp chirp....
Anytime you have a medical issue that might be disqualifying you should call ALPA medical and get their opinion before getting care or reporting on an FAA form.
09-01-2018, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64
Yes, unfortunately there are douche-bags in the military who game the system for $$. Most of the VA claims are legitimate. Some are not. In my outfit we just ran a guy off who was getting an 80% disability, but STILL managing to pass a Class II military flight physical and was flying as a line pilot.
I’m 90% and hold a class 1 and yes the FAA knows everything in my VA file. I know of others who are over 100% and hold all classes. One guy holds a MOH and Purple Heart with 2 leafs the equivalent of three Purple Hearts. Holds a class two and flies helicopters for a living.
A VA disability does not necessarily mean you are an invaled. There are many with high disability ratings that lead very productive lives.
09-01-2018, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8tr1
What are you saying here? 80% and you shouldn’t be able to pass a class 2?
I’m 90% and hold a class 1 and yes the FAA knows everything in my VA file. I know of others who are over 100% and hold all classes. One guy holds a MOH and Purple Heart with 2 leafs the equivalent of three Purple Hearts. Holds a class two and flies helicopters for a living.
A VA disability does not necessarily mean you are an invaled. There are many with high disability ratings that lead very productive lives.
I’m 90% and hold a class 1 and yes the FAA knows everything in my VA file. I know of others who are over 100% and hold all classes. One guy holds a MOH and Purple Heart with 2 leafs the equivalent of three Purple Hearts. Holds a class two and flies helicopters for a living.
A VA disability does not necessarily mean you are an invaled. There are many with high disability ratings that lead very productive lives.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
09-01-2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
The VA has rules that say for XXX I get a disability rating.
The FAA says that I can get a waiver for that to fly.
Not a thing wrong with it and your cockles are irrelevant.
09-01-2018, 04:57 PM
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John Burke,
As I posted, “disability” pay is not necessarily about being physically disabled, it’s about being paid for injuries suffered during government service. Being made whiole. You are expressly forbidden from suing, for most cases, the government enjoys sovereign immunity. Second, what civilian employer could knowingly expose their employees to hazards routinely seen in the service?
Now, the question is the condition justifying payment potentially disqualifying? Is there fraud, of course, they’re also investigated.
Rickair777,. I’ll stand corrected on the date the disability question was added, but I vividly remember hearing of this potential issue in the late 80s. Maybe memory is fading.
GF
As I posted, “disability” pay is not necessarily about being physically disabled, it’s about being paid for injuries suffered during government service. Being made whiole. You are expressly forbidden from suing, for most cases, the government enjoys sovereign immunity. Second, what civilian employer could knowingly expose their employees to hazards routinely seen in the service?
Now, the question is the condition justifying payment potentially disqualifying? Is there fraud, of course, they’re also investigated.
Rickair777,. I’ll stand corrected on the date the disability question was added, but I vividly remember hearing of this potential issue in the late 80s. Maybe memory is fading.
GF
09-01-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
If one loses a leg and gets an artificial one, is able to walk, run, fly airplanes, fornacate is one no longer disabled? Should they not be compensated for the loss of said leg in the line of duty for country? Or is it once they have that artificial leg and can walk again they are whole again?
I get that you are a troll. Show some respect for your betters who bled for this country. Not everyone is trying to game the system. Some of us fought and bled for you. VA disability is reimbursement for lost abilities that many have found ways around their "disability".
You don't like it run for congress and end support to American soldiers. I'm sure that will warm the cockles of the people around you.
09-01-2018, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
I.e. If you have a disability rating you are not allowed to work?
09-01-2018, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by decrabbitz
Re: “benefits”, are we talking about money only, or do “benefits” include such things as VA loans, free tuition, etc? If someone has a “0%” rating and receiving no money are they on the radar?
I would think a 0% rating would not trigger the benefits question 18(y), but you probably should have reported the original condition which led to a residual 0% rating to the FAA. The 8500 questions all start with "Have you ever..." If you have a 0%, then yes you have at one time.
09-01-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
It warms the cockles of my heart to know that you're not disabled enough to fly for a living, that I get to pay for your "disability," and yet it doesn't impact your ability to to...not really be disabled.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
Quite a gambit.
As others noted, gotta love the airline pilots with handicap stickers, pulling in their two hundred grand on their first class medical, and disability at the same time. Uncle Sam is quite the cash cow.
https://taskandpurpose.com/boston-gr...pite-injuries/
Think he should get some "disability" comp when he retires?
Now I agree that 90% of folks with handicap plates are probably scamming the system for rock star parking. I could probably get one too, but I'd be embarrassed as an airline pilot.
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