PDRit

You miss the back and forth I had with the mil guy that said he was allegedly spelling incorrectly on purpose.....seeing if he would take the bait. But found another.

Back to the issue at hand. Breaking a speed limit versus lying and claiming fraudulent benefits are not a good comparison. That is why there are felonies and misdemeanors. You are familiar with those terms I suppose?

You defending this guy is so typical of the guys I have flown with. All the bragging about claiming guard duty to avoid weekends and holidays at the airline. Or how they were getting the summer vacation they couldn’t hold in seniority with fake guard duty claims. Even had an FO that was retiring talking about he he was going to claim Mil disability and all the grounding conditions he had. But if they raised the retirement age he would be sure to stay

Excargodog

You accuse me of missing a back and forth you had - which I did not - but didn't even read my posting before replying. I didn't defend him, I accused him of fraud.

I am objective enough to call out those former military members who do things that are illegal, immoral, or just plain stupid. Are you objective enough to even look at what I posted before assuming I'm an apologist for all ex-military?

Apparently not.

conoblep

Some depressing food for thought, after reading that at least one of the pilots mixed up in the indictments was pulling military retirement. If a person is pulling any sort of retirement, they are technically still in a reserve component of the DoD (USMC retirees are part of the FMCR while pulling retired pay, the Air Force is the 'Retired Reserve'). Which means they are still subject to the UCMJ. Which means the Air Force could go after him for misconduct and take his retirement away if he is convicted.

CX500T

I have been dealing with the VA for 7+ years. The system is jacked up to say the least.

I filed for stuff that was broken on active duty (I have pretty severe orthopedic injuries and burns that the FAA knows about) and the VA for years has dragged on and on and on with exam after exam.

Every time I go in to an actual VA facility vs a contracted out one, they try to get me to amend my claim to include PTSD and TBI. They tell me that "you will get 100% no questions asked if you ask for it" based on severity of my orthopedic injuries.

Funny thing is the Navy assessed me for both, found I have neither (and the tests were pretty thorough) but the VA wants to push people to claim those.

Not that it makes what these four are accused of right, but that's how the VA themselves tries to steer guys.

In my case, they keep on telling me to file for things I don't have, but cant' be proven I don't if I say the right things, but won't give me a rating for the six pounds of hardware holding my legs and back together.

The system is jacked, and openly encourages people to claim **** that cant' be disproved.

Smooth at FL450

Only "depressing" if his actions were unintentional. Not depressing at all if he got caught cheating the system.

scubadiver

Agreed.. I surely don't want to defend an intentional liar.

Packrat

We had a pilot at my reserve squadron who told NWA he had SDO duty the week of Christmas.

Well, NWA called to check and found out he wasn't there. They fired him.

scubadiver

Damn, Ice Cube and Dre have no heart!

rickair7777

Incredibly unlikely for something like this. Retirees (who are actually on "retainer" pay until a certain age or number of years) are subject to recall but that is incredibly rare, and probably only going to happen for serious crimes against national security, ie espionage.

Excargodog

If you are a Regular (as opposed to Reserve) officer, they own you even after retirement, although I agree that I think the likelihood of you being called back into active service for strictly disciplinary matters is small. For other "needs of the service," well, it could always happen, either singly or in bunches:

Air Force: Pilots recalled under Trump order will serve as instructors, staff
By: Stephen Losey   October 23, 2017


The Air Force expects fewer than 200 retired pilots will return to active duty and serve as instructor pilots and in rated staff positions under an executive order issued by President Trump. (Staff Sgt. Caycee R. Cook/Air Force)

The Air Force expects fewer than 200 retired pilots will return to active duty and serve as instructor pilots and in rated staff positions under an executive order issued by President Trump.

The Pentagon originally said after the order was signed Friday that as many as 1,000 retired pilots could be brought back for up to three years. But in a gaggle with reporters Monday at the Pentagon, Brig. Gen. Mike Koscheski, the head of a task force dedicated to fixing the Air Force’s pilot shortfall, said it likely won’t be that many.