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Old 03-23-2015 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
CPAP machines record usage.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

We should all have wires hooked up for all sleeps, with live streaming data to the FAA. That way if we didn't get a full uninterrupted 8 hours we'd be grounded until we did.

We'd need about 400,000 more pilots overnight if we did that though.
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Old 03-24-2015 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Dr Frederick Tilton. Former FAA head of the AME branch. FAA in Open Contempt of Pilots, Congress | Flying Magazine

He's the one that brought in sleep 'experts' who came up with this crap.


This should be interesting for international pilots who want to sleep during flight. Break out the CPAP and hook it up while trying to rest on a flight. ... for those that don't know, CPAP machines record usage.
Not only do they record it on an internal card but the newest ones are cellular and send it daily automatically. I can go online and see my stats for the last 14 days. If you are not using it then the insurance company footing the bill has the justification to stop paying for it. The daily uplink must not be the full data set because for the FAA report I had to order a download from the CPAP company which they did remotely after I put in a request for 2 weeks of data. I then received a two page report that analyzed the data set.

For me, two weeks on the machine, and I am seeing definite benefits. And there is an airplane mode on the machine and I have heard of long haul pilots who plug them in and use them during their flights.

Also had a friend and his wife was complaining that he always woke her up...they both got tested and he was fine but she ended up needing CPAP.
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Old 03-24-2015 | 07:10 AM
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The worst 'sleep' I've ever had in my career was right after our twins were born. I was a 727 F/O on reserve at the time (1989).

After a few sleepless nights, I called crew scheds and BEGGED them to send me ANYWHERE!

"I'll fly any trip, anywhere, just get me OUT OF HERE so I can get some SLEEP!!"

They had a good laugh over that, and sent me on a trip with long layovers.

Now, when ever I have trouble getting to sleep, I just think back to all those sleepless nights and pretend there's a crying baby in the next room who needs a diaper change and a bottle...

that will usually put me right to sleep!

Maybe Doctor Tilton will mandate that all airline pilots should be castrated as soon as they are hired? I'm pretty sure the pilots with young kids are getting a lot less sleep than the guys with OSA...
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Old 03-24-2015 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Maybe Doctor Tilton will mandate that all airline pilots should be castrated as soon as they are hired?
Some flight attendants may appreciate that as well.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 05:41 AM
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Particularly the ugly ones.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 09:18 AM
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Guess I'm an "obese" bodybuilder at 5'9" and 207. When I was USAF enlisted 25 yrs ago I received two weight waivers based on body fat vs BMI Chart. No luck here eh? I was a USAF firefighter/CFR before transitioning to flying. Would you rather have the buff gym rat with 35 pounds of gear and an air pack pulling you out of a burning BUFF And dragging you outside the death zone or the scrawny guy that comes in under the BMI index as normal? The BMI index is inaccurate for athletes and those with a higher percentage of muscle.
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Old 03-25-2015 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Guess I'm an "obese" bodybuilder at 5'9" and 207. When I was USAF enlisted I received two weight waivers based on body fat vs BMI Chart. No luck here eh? I was a USAF firefighter/CFR before transitioning to flying. Would you rather have the buff gym rat pulling you out of a burning BUFF or the scrawny guy that comes in under the BMI index as normal? The BMI index is inaccurate for athletes and those with a higher percentage of muscle.
Can I chose the athletic looking girl
to pull me out and give me mouth to mouth?
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Old 03-25-2015 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlood
Can I chose the athletic looking girl
to pull me out and give me mouth to mouth?
You're thinking lifeguards! A USAF Female CFR is more likely to be the one throwing the first punch in a bar fight! "Athletic" sure... Mouth to mouth material... Not so much. But a great pickup line would be,"I'd let you work my Hurst Power tool for a forcible entry" (That's the official name for the jaws of life). Much more clever than hose and nozzle pressure jokes. Firefighter humor.
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Old 03-26-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
You're thinking lifeguards! A USAF Female CFR is more likely to be the one throwing the first punch in a bar fight! "Athletic" sure... Mouth to mouth material... Not so much. But a great pickup line would be,"I'd let you work my Hurst Power tool for a forcible entry" (That's the official name for the jaws of life). Much more clever than hose and nozzle pressure jokes. Firefighter humor.
That is funny stuff
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Old 03-26-2015 | 10:33 AM
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Had a class 1 this morning. I fit the bigger frame model. AME told me that he is giving Apnea info to all patients regardless if they fit the profile or not, furthermore he said he is using his clinical judgment as best as he can but he is recommending all patients visit their "real" doctor and get documentation verifying OSA status.
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