Pretty pumped about this, we reallllly needed another hub base. Plus, I need to get out of CLT from time to time.

Sweet!


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Heard ORF will mostly be 200 flying and PHL will be a mix with some longer 900 flights.

Do we really need 7 domiciles?

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I'll take it with not needing to commute [emoji3]


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“More to come”.

SAV/SJU co-domicile, just for you.

Was hoping ORF was a typo and they actually meant ORD


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The ORD ship sailed when they announced CVG.

Maybe I should just give up the ghost. :D

Close TYS then you have 6

With new bases, when do they usually open the bids?
Is it common to get displaced from your current base to staff the new ones?

They will have base bids open probably within a week. I seriously doubt anyone will be displaced. We have plenty of PHL and ORF guys who were patiently waiting for this. Plus, the initial numbers are not big (60 in PHL and 40 in ORF).

They'll probably end up sending some new hires to those bases if nobody wants them, but there are those who wanted those bases. People should worry more about losing lines in some bases. For example, Dayton and Knoxville guys do a lot of PHL flying. When I was in Dayton, I could go a couple of trips without seeing CLT.

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What do you guys think, will ORF go senior or junior on CA side? The wife and I were looking at a move down that way anyway. I'm an Oct '16 hire.

Are you saying we are going to add another base in addition to PHL and ORF??

That's what the announcement on the company website said.

Bid what you want and don’t overthink it. Even if you’re the last guy on the CA list driving to work is great QOL.

BTW, just looking more into this it seems numbering on company seniority list is incorrect. There are several numbers that are omitted. I presume they don't fix the numbering as they remove pilots who leave. However, the numbers that are put out on the chart are correct to the effect they count actual number of people on seniority list.

I've rarely done PHL turns in CLT trips, so how is the company transferring flying from CLT to PHL? As far as I know, they're done by DAY, CVG, TYS crews. Just curious....

So am a new hire and was hoping someone can explain what’s going on with CLT? Just read the bulletin. Transferring flying to me can mean a number of things:confused::confused: Is CLT on the way out?

Not at all. The company is (likely temporarily) reducing the number of CAs and FOs and some lines in CLT to initially open PHL and ORF. They did the same with CVG and DCA when they opened... CLT is still by a very large longshot our biggest and most robust operation.

Ok thanks for the clarification. That’s what I figured but you can never know with these regionals. Just came over from XJT and had my share of shuffling around and surprises I can assure you.

Shifting flying out for other junior bases doesn’t sound good for a fella interested in PSA solely because of CLT.

I’m very 121 ignorant - but I’m guessing this means that CLT is just becoming more difficult to get as a new hire?

Not really. There is so much movement here from the flow and outside attrition almost everyone can likely hold their base of choice by the time their done with IOE and finished with training.

Not really. We’ll have to see, but we just added another very easily commutable base and a second “country club” base. We now have a vacation base in the mountains and a vacation base on the coast.

CLT will continue to be our largest base.

Help the new guy, Please!!

How the heck do you read this? Sure does seem like there is some good info here - no clue how to read it??

Thanks!!

Basically you're looking at the hire dates for people in each base who are holding a particular kind of schedule. The lower section in each box is just showing how long it is from their hire date.

As for the schedule types:
R1: Round One Line. Lots of flexibility with SAP
BU: Build Up Line. Leftovers after SAP. You have a schedule, but the trips could be better.
LCR: Long call reserve. 12 hour callout.
SCR: Short Call Reserve. 2 hour callout in most bases. Potential of getting hot reserve as well, which is sitting standby in the airport.

I have not seen the new chart lately of bases and reserve times... is it correct to think maybe with the two new bases, that reserve time my decrease in CLT or others. Can you post the chart if convenient that is current

1st post on this thread is current. New one in 11-12 days when the next awards are out.

The first post of this thread is the current chart.

CLT reserve time will not be likely to decrease as some of the lines at the new bases are supposedly coming from CLT. Fewer lines equals more people on reserve.

The already low reserve times in DCA and DAY may go even lower as DC will lose some people that drive and are equidistant to ORF, DC may lose some NE commuters to PHL, and DAY will probably lose some people to PHL that currently commute to DAY.

Every base is a game of musical chairs with the number of chairs and dancers constantly changing. The two new bases have a total of 50 captain and 50 FO spots to start. CLT has over 300. Seems unlikely it's going to make big changes until/unless those bases grow substantially and even then it depends on whether they grow from growth or shifting away from other bases.

Ok Gents- Can anyone shed light on how CS develops the number of LCR slots to SCR slots during any given month? Ie 65 R1 lines, 10 BU lines and then ....?

I think it's 10% of R2 lines (BU and reserve combined). Pretty sure it's in the contract somewhere (or an LOA)

White Morpheus -Thanks for the heads up. You, Macros, and Tall Flyer have been a huge help with all of your posts in the past. Thank you gentlemen.

CBA 25.A.8 is what you’re looking for. Always happy to help.


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Also, the total number of R2 lines (BU/SCR/LCR) usually equals the remainder of the eligible pilots in group. If there are 130 FOs and 65 R1 lines, you'll see 65 R2 FO lines (including reserve and BU). I've seen an unawarded reserve line a couple of times, perhaps someone became ineligible before the bid closed.

In our combined example there would be 65 R1, 10 BU, 7 LCR, and 48 SCR lines. I'm hoping the LCR ratio sees an increase with the alleged reserve improvement bargaining.

Is there any parking cost reimbursement or arrangement when commuting to my base. ie commuting to CLT base, but parking at my local hometown airport

Investigate at your local airport also. Mine gives a >50% discount on long term parking for commuting crews.

Any idea on when these base bids are going to be published? It’s almost been a week.