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Originally Posted by germese
(Post 2641930)
If an RTP guy fails, the money given to them for the fixed wing time has to be repaid. That money isn't simply lost by the company and taken out of a line pilot's pocket.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2642162)
I’m not 100% sure but I do not think that is necessarily true.
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Originally Posted by captande
(Post 2642179)
It’s not, just like if you leave before 2 years you have to pay back the sign on bonus.
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Helo guys have such a varied background. id guess the lack of x-country in actual IFR in controlled airspace. No chip in the whole branch war thing but army/ANG seems to treat helo's like driving a garden tractor. This plane demands that you have a good grasp on aeronautics and SOP's.
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Originally Posted by MichaelVne
(Post 2641660)
I would like to ask everyone to be respect to everyone going through training. I am sure that nobody made it through as easy as yourselves, but these are men and women who served our country like we will never understand. Let's set-up everyone the best path to succeed. Respectfully, Michael 39%
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Originally Posted by rickshaw
(Post 2642811)
Helo guys have such a varied background. id guess the lack of x-country in actual IFR in controlled airspace. No chip in the whole branch war thing but army/ANG seems to treat helo's like driving a garden tractor. This plane demands that you have a good grasp on aeronautics and SOP's.
I think as a whole military aviators have skill sets civilians do not and to a degree vise versa. |
I don't know about all that. I had 260 total PIC Airplane 1600 Helo 3hrs actual IMC and maybe 10? in the IFR system when I got to the airlines and I made it through training just fine.
I didn't use my GI Bill though. It was all my skin in the game. To paraphrase the guy who taught me how to fly who is a retired CWO/IP, has done more things in the civilian world most pilots only dream of including his award winning Air Show act "I'll hire a civilian over a military pilot any day" (he was a 135 CP among other things) His reasoning was that civilians have skin in the game. Military pilots have had everything handed to them on a silver platter. He was a ruck marching airborne before accession, real salt of the Earth type. Maybe these RTP guys just have it too easy? (Only in some cases obviously...) |
Originally Posted by JayBee
(Post 2643268)
I don't know about all that. I had 260 total PIC Airplane 1600 Helo 3hrs actual IMC and maybe 10? in the IFR system when I got to the airlines and I made it through training just fine.
I didn't use my GI Bill though. It was all my skin in the game. To paraphrase the guy who taught me how to fly who is a retired CWO/IP, has done more things in the civilian world most pilots only dream of including his award winning Air Show act "I'll hire a civilian over a military pilot any day" (he was a 135 CP among other things) His reasoning was that civilians have skin in the game. Military pilots have had everything handed to them on a silver platter. He was a ruck marching airborne before accession, real salt of the Earth type. Maybe these RTP guys just have it too easy? (Only in some cases obviously...) |
Originally Posted by bscott58d
(Post 2643004)
Many of us (me included could for sure) could have more solid IFR skills, but I’d be hard pressed to be against us flying anything like a tractor or not having a grasp of SOPs/aeronautics. combine that with our training in CRM and emergency procedures and you begin to under stand why the we have branch mottos like “above the best”
I think as a whole military aviators have skill sets civilians do not and to a degree vise versa. |
I'm sure a Helicopter is quite the handful. As stated, this program in reverse would be quite a mess. ( RJ- Helicopter). Anyway kudos to all those that stepped up to serve their country. Great folks, just hope PSA's giving them the tools to be successful in the switch.
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