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Swakid8 09-28-2018 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rockies Pilot (Post 2682105)
Yeah that’s a lot of movement. Makes me wonder how the class sizes are but I guess it doesn’t matter if they can’t keep up with attrition.



I know the company shrunk classes to around 22-25 by design to keep a backlog from building


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irrelevant 09-28-2018 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2682251)
I know the company shrunk classes to around 22-25 by design to keep a backlog from building


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There's also not much growth on the horizon.

Approach1260 09-28-2018 07:41 AM

From what I've heard we're now properly staffed, so they're starting to get more selective particularly where DUI's and prior 121 failures are concerned.

There was a pinch for Captains for a bit, but Senior maning fixed that.

The next big complaint we're gonna have is everyone having to check in (both reserve and line holders) through the new crew mobile app.

But we're supposed to park 14 deuces in exchange for 14 new 900's in 2019which will be pretty nice if it happens.

Sounds like DCA will become the 200 hub until all that construction is done.

Swakid8 09-28-2018 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2682352)
From what I've heard we're now properly staffed, so they're starting to get more selective particularly where DUI's and prior 121 failures are concerned.



There was a pinch for Captains for a bit, but Senior maning fixed that.



The next big complaint we're gonna have is everyone having to check in (both reserve and line holders) through the new crew mobile app.



But we're supposed to park 14 deuces in exchange for 14 new 900's in 2019which will be pretty nice if it happens.



Sounds like DCA will become the 200 hub until all that construction is done.


Because of DCA becoming a 200 Base, I see ORF because by a heavy supporter of DCA 200 flying. A lot of my trips in OCT are 200 flying in and out of DCA for October


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TallFlyer 09-28-2018 08:47 AM

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Time is from DOH.

evanss9550 09-28-2018 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2682352)
From what I've heard we're now properly staffed, so they're starting to get more selective particularly where DUI's and prior 121 failures are concerned.

There was a pinch for Captains for a bit, but Senior maning fixed that.

What do you think that does to upgrade times for new hires?

ZeroTT 09-28-2018 02:37 PM

Upgrade times recently have been driven by growth (ie fast)

They’re transitioning to the more typical driven by attrition. That will have to make it slower only because there is no way to go faster. Speed depends on attrition which depends on the overall pilot job market.

WhiteMorpheus 09-28-2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2682578)
Upgrade times recently have been driven by growth (ie fast)

They’re transitioning to the more typical driven by attrition. That will have to make it slower only because there is no way to go faster. Speed depends on attrition which depends on the overall pilot job market.

FO attrition is also influenced by the expedience of becoming a lineholder and/or upgrading.

If the market at the majors/ULCCs stays strong or increases due to retirements, you will start seeing more people with zero 121 PIC getting hired by them.

If we increase flow to 1% per month, one newhire class each month will basically cover the flow plus monthly training attrition. The other would continue slight growth and account for outside attrition.

If we're really fully staffed you'd think we would see our full complement of 150 planes by next summer. I'm not holding my breath, because without a more efficient use of pilots (less reserve more lines) we can't staff 150 planes.

tlamjaj 09-30-2018 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rockies Pilot (Post 2682105)
Yeah that’s a lot of movement. Makes me wonder how the class sizes are but I guess it doesn’t matter if they can’t keep up with attrition.

This may be incorrect, but I believe with each vacancy announcement, the number of vacancies match the number of new hires in the class. I know that was true for my and my friend's class this year. So, that would make it seem as if the most class was down to 21.

rayburton72 09-30-2018 04:52 PM

9/10 class is 18. Let’s see how many vacancies appear on the next bid


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