Did a little research and I get it now. Very cool. Mucho Respect for all those that went through it.

I’m copying and pasting to make it easier. Also, the 30k-40k reference is not an exaggeration. It’s the norm. If you don’t believe me dig a little deeper and you’ll find more information on the PSA threads along with the Endeavor and Republic threads as well....


If all things were equal I’d say go to PSA for the easier commute...but...things are definitely not equal.

It really comes down to what’s 30k-40k a year worth to you. For me, if I was starting over, 30k-40k extra a year on regional pay would be worth the extra commute to go to Endeavor. But if you have a spouse with a good paying job, or some extra money saved away then maybe it’s not much of an issue for you. I commuted for 3 years as an FO and I didn’t mind it one bit. It all depends on your personal situation. You just have to think what is 30k-40k extra a year worth to you?

Also, I’m pretty sure you could have more days off at Endeavor than PSA even if our SAP worked great and still make more money while doing so, giving you more time at home even with the tougher commute. I’ve heard of Endeavor guys getting 20-22 days off if they want to work the bare minimum. PSA will get you 17 or 18. 19 if you get a little lucky during SAP. Again, what’s 30k-40k worth to you?

SAP is nice, but it’s only nice because it helps fix the crappy schedules we’re awarded with. I guarantee you at least 50% of the schedules at Endeavor are without a doubt better than the number 1 schedule at PSA after SAP with more days off and more credit (even besides the better pay rates) at the same time.

It’s all up to what your priorities are. Like I said before, if everything is equal, PSA would probably be the top choice. But we’re far from equal and only you can decide what the extra money and days off are worth to you at Endeavor.

Sitting at home on reserve (as FO and again as a CA after 18 months) while drawing that O-grade retirement check should make things here bearable. Depending on your mil experience you might not be here too long, if you don't want to and don't mind commuting for a "major."

I’m curious as to why we are still doing vacancy bids for January, I mean I understand that there is a three month lead “lag” time between placing the vacancy bid and being effective to a new base however... last month we all bid for effective January bases and that assumes a FOUR MONTH leading lag time... why is this? Is it because of Christmas time craziness of December? I mean unfortunately for me this is about the time I got experienced enough to understand all the bidding cycles so instead of a three month vacancy change Im having to wait four months... I’m fine with it but it just sucks since typically it’s 3 months not four and I was wondering what that was about?

The next one closes in Oct and will be effective in. Feb, it seems about normal time frame to be honest when all of the January effectives bids all closes in September. I am sure there will be a few Feb effective bids in October.


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I guess I should have clarified, unless I am mistaken which is quite possible I bid for vacancy change in August and was awarded an effective month of January, a four month Lead Time. They are making that the same effective month for the September bidding Which means the August round have to wait four months.

There are usually two bids per month. Exact time from award to effective varies but 3-4 months is within recent norms.

Anybody notice the significant drop in pilot numbers on the seniority list. Just a week ago we had 1850 pilots on the seniority list. I went in to check Flica today for October grid and we have 1791 on the list currently?

Flica may not be counting the pilots who have left for flow...that would account for about 30.

Yeah that’s a lot of movement. Makes me wonder how the class sizes are but I guess it doesn’t matter if they can’t keep up with attrition.