PSA or Republic (PHL Desired)
05-20-2019, 06:15 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
Lazy Boy? You must be one of those spoiled CLT reserves. The outstations are lucky to have furniture just barely superior to lawn chairs.
Their flow rate, as a percentage of the pilot group (which is what matters) has long been higher than PSA's, so there is that. If flow is the goal, Piedmont has been the better choice for several years.
Their flow rate, as a percentage of the pilot group (which is what matters) has long been higher than PSA's, so there is that. If flow is the goal, Piedmont has been the better choice for several years.
A Piedmont Line holder vs a PSA line holder even prior to the PSA pay raise had to work an extra 3 months worth of days per year to come close to match PSA credit.
Over a 10 year period waiting to flow, a Piedmont pilot will be at work an extra 900 days compared to a PSA pilot, for less credit.
05-20-2019, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix21
Not lately. Piedmont’s flow is just under 10 years for new hires.
A Piedmont Line holder vs a PSA line holder even prior to the PSA pay raise had to work an extra 3 months worth of days per year to come close to match PSA credit.
Over a 10 year period waiting to flow, a Piedmont pilot will be at work an extra 900 days compared to a PSA pilot, for less credit.
A Piedmont Line holder vs a PSA line holder even prior to the PSA pay raise had to work an extra 3 months worth of days per year to come close to match PSA credit.
Over a 10 year period waiting to flow, a Piedmont pilot will be at work an extra 900 days compared to a PSA pilot, for less credit.
How many pilots are on Piedmont's seniority list?
PSA is flowing just ten a month.
PSA has 1,900 pilots on the seniority list.
Let's see the numbers over at Piedmont.
05-20-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
How many is Piedmont flowing a month?
How many pilots are on Piedmont's seniority list?
PSA is flowing just ten a month.
PSA has 1,900 pilots on the seniority list.
Let's see the numbers over at Piedmont.
How many pilots are on Piedmont's seniority list?
PSA is flowing just ten a month.
PSA has 1,900 pilots on the seniority list.
Let's see the numbers over at Piedmont.
744 on the seniority list currently (fluxes between 740-760ish).
05-20-2019, 10:41 AM
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Obviously there are many factors to consider. That doesn't mean one shouldn't counter misinformation...intentional or not. If flow is the priority, PSA's is inferior to Piedmont for a new hire. That is simple math. Would you rather be on the bottom of a seniority list with 6% of those senior to you leaving via flow every year, or on the bottom of a seniority list with 50% more leaving via flow every year?
It's a data point to add to the decision process.
It's a data point to add to the decision process.
05-20-2019, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
Obviously there are many factors to consider. That doesn't mean one shouldn't counter misinformation...intentional or not. If flow is the priority, PSA's is inferior to Piedmont for a new hire. That is simple math. Would you rather be on the bottom of a seniority list with 6% of those senior to you leaving via flow every year, or on the bottom of a seniority list with 50% more leaving via flow every year?
It's a data point to add to the decision process.
It's a data point to add to the decision process.
PHL won't grow at PSA and might even shrink....while probably will always be there for Piedmont.
Another point is that piedmont lines might be bad...but he will be stuck for a long time in reserve anyway, so no big changes here...moreover he will not be able to hold captain LCR or better in PHL for a long time
05-20-2019, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
Thanks.
Piedmont is flowing a maximum 9.68% of the seniority list annually. PSA is flowing a maximum 6.32%. Piedmont is flowing at a 53% greater rate than PSA is.
Piedmont is flowing a maximum 9.68% of the seniority list annually. PSA is flowing a maximum 6.32%. Piedmont is flowing at a 53% greater rate than PSA is.
Even when Piedmont gets its pay raise, it will still be hampered by 16hr. 4 day Lines strung together for 75hr credit lines with 11 days off.
11 days off (mostly 2 days with an occasional 3 or 4 day stretch thrown in) for 10 years... the OP said they’re looking for QOL. Piedmont is the last airline to come to in Philly or CLT if quality of life is even remotely part of the consideration.
05-20-2019, 05:35 PM
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Republic here if you're actually curious about what's going on here...PHL has been up and down over the last year. They suddenly had a few vacancies that let a bunch of junior FO's in, but I imagine that door has closed by now. Junior lineholder FO for June is 6/25/18 hire. However, PHL is small for us. Only 31 full lines. There's always movement, though...PHL on the CA side doesn't move at all, so FO's will end up taking upgrades in other bases. Junior upgrade is under 2 years now.
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