PSA base at DFW
03-10-2021 | 11:49 AM
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03-10-2021 | 03:53 PM
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Psa is assigned flights. They build the pairings, they build the lines, they manage delays. Management has real ability to impact all of those things, pilots have essentially zero. So yeah when a pairing has a 3 hr sit in CLT that extends to 5 with maintenance... the pilots should get 2.5 hrs for that.
03-10-2021 | 05:51 PM
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PSA management doesn’t control the flying it gets to do… Therefore trip and duty rigs and a good min day are viewed by management as potential “punishment” for things they have no real control over.
That being said I personally think a 4.25 min day with no carve outs would solve a lot of problems.
That being said I personally think a 4.25 min day with no carve outs would solve a lot of problems.
Before some ALPA kool-aid drinker jumps on me yes I'm sure we'll keep something called "SAP" after agreeing to PBS, but it'll be a hollow reminder of the qol we once had and nothing more.
We either get a major min day and rig win with the PBS vote, or PSA will be known as the pilot group who traded the best quality of life item in the regionals (arguably the industry as a whole) for nothing but hopeful words from the union, and bs from the company.
03-10-2021 | 05:52 PM
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Psa is assigned flights. They build the pairings, they build the lines, they manage delays. Management has real ability to impact all of those things, pilots have essentially zero. So yeah when a pairing has a 3 hr sit in CLT that extends to 5 with maintenance... the pilots should get 2.5 hrs for that.
03-10-2021 | 06:32 PM
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the bennies from PBS
03-11-2021 | 02:00 AM
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03-11-2021 | 04:02 AM
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However, one thing did stick out to me that bothered me and I know it bothers me because I have absolutely no trust in management to “do the right thing”. The timeline we were given said that we would do shadow bidding for a few months. Then we’d go full on to PBS for a few months. THEN we would have the pilot vote. My concern is that at that point even if we vote NO that at that point management will say that the line bidding isn’t available anymore and the crap sandwich we were handed is here to stay.
03-11-2021 | 04:45 AM
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I was on the call and I’d agree that some very good info came out. Like the fact that industry standard is for the pilot group to get a percentage of the savings from the switch.
However, one thing did stick out to me that bothered me and I know it bothers me because I have absolutely no trust in management to “do the right thing”. The timeline we were given said that we would do shadow bidding for a few months. Then we’d go full on to PBS for a few months. THEN we would have the pilot vote. My concern is that at that point even if we vote NO that at that point management will say that the line bidding isn’t available anymore and the crap sandwich we were handed is here to stay.
However, one thing did stick out to me that bothered me and I know it bothers me because I have absolutely no trust in management to “do the right thing”. The timeline we were given said that we would do shadow bidding for a few months. Then we’d go full on to PBS for a few months. THEN we would have the pilot vote. My concern is that at that point even if we vote NO that at that point management will say that the line bidding isn’t available anymore and the crap sandwich we were handed is here to stay.
edit: I get where you’re coming from and I agree. Trust has been broken, and they shouldn’t be trusted.
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