Any rumors of class cancellations ?
05-10-2020, 04:31 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Curious to see how things play out if every flight is load restricted
Besides, anyone flying now either doesn’t care or assumes the risk.
05-10-2020, 06:19 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by DoggiePoo
You lost the 200's already and you actually believe that the other 90/70's staffing is not going to be affected? Industry is 90% off it's last year passenger counts. The TSA says that passenger traffic is at 6% SWA alone burned through 1 Billion $ in a month. PSA is one of the highest cost regional's. AA is definitely the first to declare bankruptcy. The job losses for PSA and the other 2 wholly owned will be tantamount to each and every one of you being shut down or at best possibly 20% of your pilot pool surviving the cut. I suggest you all start getting your financial house in order for a huge hit. Stop with the delusions that this is not going to affect you. The Kool-Aid has run out.
05-11-2020, 01:44 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by captande
Back out of the woodworks I see. Have some downtime at the job every PSA pilot wishes they had to come back to the regional scum and spread your doom and gloom? Pound sand and stay well.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/co...eat-depression
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...200419877.html
"25% unemployment" means people have no money to travel. Look at the TSA #s. Those numbers account for all you jump seating to your dream jobs. Bankruptcies both corp and personal will soar to numbers never seen before. It is also being reported that Corp pilots pay is being cut in half by some companies "because they can" meaning many realize the glut of pilots that are or will be on the streets and are cutting salaries. If there are any RJ's left after AA files for bankruptcy AA mainline guys will be flying them under new terms of their newly negotiated contracts at your expense. Most of you will be lucky to see an airline or any flying job again in another 10+ years. The cargo companies will be taking all the early out guys that want to still fly and already typed in the 76/74/77 or even the 737 but not an RJ guy. AA will use you as a pawn in a chess match. Those that read and prepare will be better off. Those that are believing the 27 year old delusional PSA pilot that still believes he is untouchable will be dealing with the realities come October 1. I would be watching for downgrades and base realignments to start pretty soon. Remember those AA senior guys live beyond their means as well. So hoping for them to leave in considerable numbers to save you is another mistake. ticktockticktock
05-11-2020, 03:24 AM
#115
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Originally Posted by DoggiePoo
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/co...eat-depression
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...200419877.html
"25% unemployment" means people have no money to travel. Look at the TSA #s. Those numbers account for all you jump seating to your dream jobs. Bankruptcies both corp and personal will soar to numbers never seen before. It is also being reported that Corp pilots pay is being cut in half by some companies "because they can" meaning many realize the glut of pilots that are or will be on the streets and are cutting salaries. If there are any RJ's left after AA files for bankruptcy AA mainline guys will be flying them under new terms of their newly negotiated contracts at your expense. Most of you will be lucky to see an airline or any flying job again in another 10+ years. The cargo companies will be taking all the early out guys that want to still fly and already typed in the 76/74/77 or even the 737 but not an RJ guy. AA will use you as a pawn in a chess match. Those that read and prepare will be better off. Those that are believing the 27 year old delusional PSA pilot that still believes he is untouchable will be dealing with the realities come October 1. I would be watching for downgrades and base realignments to start pretty soon. Remember those AA senior guys live beyond their means as well. So hoping for them to leave in considerable numbers to save you is another mistake. ticktockticktock
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...200419877.html
"25% unemployment" means people have no money to travel. Look at the TSA #s. Those numbers account for all you jump seating to your dream jobs. Bankruptcies both corp and personal will soar to numbers never seen before. It is also being reported that Corp pilots pay is being cut in half by some companies "because they can" meaning many realize the glut of pilots that are or will be on the streets and are cutting salaries. If there are any RJ's left after AA files for bankruptcy AA mainline guys will be flying them under new terms of their newly negotiated contracts at your expense. Most of you will be lucky to see an airline or any flying job again in another 10+ years. The cargo companies will be taking all the early out guys that want to still fly and already typed in the 76/74/77 or even the 737 but not an RJ guy. AA will use you as a pawn in a chess match. Those that read and prepare will be better off. Those that are believing the 27 year old delusional PSA pilot that still believes he is untouchable will be dealing with the realities come October 1. I would be watching for downgrades and base realignments to start pretty soon. Remember those AA senior guys live beyond their means as well. So hoping for them to leave in considerable numbers to save you is another mistake. ticktockticktock
You’re a troll. Started your account in late April to come to the PSA forums and tell us how we’re all going to be out of jobs. Oh, and also go on the Mesa pages and talk about you think non-citizens should be removed from the flight deck. You’re either someone who failed out of training here and ended up at Mesa, or a 20+ year Envoy guy who’s still living in 2013.
05-11-2020, 04:20 AM
#116
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Originally Posted by DoggiePoo
"25% unemployment" means people have no money to travel.
In fact if you look at the demographics of the unemployed a large percentage of those are lower income and wouldn't travel anyway.
I was looking for a job when I got this one, no skin off my back.
Lastly, go away. Far away.
05-11-2020, 06:06 AM
#117
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And on the other side of that coin, 75% of the people have money to travel.
In fact if you look at the demographics of the unemployed a large percentage of those are lower income and wouldn't travel anyway.
In fact if you look at the demographics of the unemployed a large percentage of those are lower income and wouldn't travel anyway.
The one in five workers who lost their job used to have an income, and are probably a reasonable representation of previous potential airline customers.
if you turn that stat into percentage of previously employed households who have lost a job probably more like 35-40%
And then there is business travel. How many businesses are not on a cash lockdown? Of those that don’t, how many have a need and will to travel?
And what percent demand decline Is the minimum to cause significant chaos? 15% 20%. Hard to create a scenario where significant change is not coming for a couple years.
05-11-2020, 07:54 AM
#119
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
unemployment only counts people who had jobs. The really poor people didn’t have jobs, they still don’t have jobs, they didn’t count.
The one in five workers who lost their job used to have an income, and are probably a reasonable representation of previous potential airline customers.
if you turn that stat into percentage of previously employed households who have lost a job probably more like 35-40%
And then there is business travel. How many businesses are not on a cash lockdown? Of those that don’t, how many have a need and will to travel?
And what percent demand decline Is the minimum to cause significant chaos? 15% 20%. Hard to create a scenario where significant change is not coming for a couple years.
The one in five workers who lost their job used to have an income, and are probably a reasonable representation of previous potential airline customers.
if you turn that stat into percentage of previously employed households who have lost a job probably more like 35-40%
And then there is business travel. How many businesses are not on a cash lockdown? Of those that don’t, how many have a need and will to travel?
And what percent demand decline Is the minimum to cause significant chaos? 15% 20%. Hard to create a scenario where significant change is not coming for a couple years.
In fact, an important part you didn't quote - "I was looking for a job when I got this one, no skin off my back." indicates that I fully expect to have to find other work.
No sense at all in speculation or doom and gloom and other silly nonsense, whatever will happen will happen and no amount of guesses or incessant wailing on a pilot website will change it.
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