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Old 07-19-2020, 11:08 AM
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The experts are also looking at job security.
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And then you have pediatricians telling parents it’s more harmful keeping kids at home vs letting them goto school and making an official recommendation to governments and school leaders to heavily weight their decisions towards having kids in school. So I’m going to go with the doctors. Not the dumb ass politicians that just want to do “something.”

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read their guidance here:
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/20...on-in-schools/

Not being in school has the biggest impact on younger kids. My wife is a teacher. I have two school aged kids. The plan for school in my state is currently rolling out. It’s a real mess. Frankly with the plan they currently have school might as well just shut down and return the money to the general assembly. It’s about what you would expect from a bunch of ignorant pricks making decisions purely for a political agenda and fear of liability.

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Old 07-19-2020, 11:19 AM
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What? Exactly the opposite. I’m saying listen to them instead of politicians


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I agree with this statement. All three of them admit this is comparable to the flu. I just don’t see the benefit of depriving kids of normal social and brain development when people in their age group are probably close to 10 times more likely to get struck by lightning than to have any negative effects from the Motorola virus. If there’s an older teacher I could see them staying home, but for children there’s almost 0 chance of them being harmed from this. I think the negative effects of kids not going to school far outweigh the positives. Most pediatricians agree. The only ones that disagree are politicians.
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Old 07-19-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot View Post
and then you have pediatricians telling parents it’s more harmful keeping kids at home vs letting them goto school and making an official recommendation to governments and school leaders to heavily weight their decisions towards having kids in school. So I’m going to go with the doctors. Not the dumb ass politicians that just want to do “something.”
The problem is that everyone is passing the buck and nobody actually wants to take the reins on how to safely re-open because nobody wants to take the blame if a ****load of teachers and kids end up extremely ill or dead. The American Academy on Pediatrics said that it’s important for kids to go to school for academics and to learn social skills, but they also stressed that doctors and teachers be included in planning on how to safely re-open.

Trump just heard the first part and started screaming to re-open. The states are looking to the CDC for guidance on how to safely re-open, and Trump has silenced the CDC and sent Devos out to say that the states will figure it out on their own. So now some states are saying that without guidance from the CDC, they’re not re-opening schools, and you have idiots like DeSantis who insists on re-opening one day and the very next day goes on TV and says that the virus likes to spread in closed, confined, air conditioned spaces (like classrooms).

It’s an epic cluster**** that is compounded by the fact that it’s an election year so everyone is too paralyzed by fear of not getting re-elected to take action.
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The problem is that everyone is passing the buck and nobody actually wants to take the reins on how to safely re-open because nobody wants to take the blame if a ****load of teachers and kids end up extremely ill or dead. The American Academy on Pediatrics said that it’s important for kids to go to school for academics and to learn social skills, but they also stressed that doctors and teachers be included in planning on how to safely re-open.

Trump just heard the first part and started screaming to re-open. The states are looking to the CDC for guidance on how to safely re-open, and Trump has silenced the CDC and sent Devos out to say that the states will figure it out on their own. So now some states are saying that without guidance from the CDC, they’re not re-opening schools, and you have idiots like DeSantis who insists on re-opening one day and the very next day goes on TV and says that the virus likes to spread in closed, confined, air conditioned spaces (like classrooms).

It’s an epic cluster**** that is compounded by the fact that it’s an election year so everyone is too paralyzed by fear of not getting re-elected to take action.
I don’t have any idea what trump is doing. Sounds about as useful as every other politician.
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Old 07-19-2020, 11:42 AM
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This is getting wayyy off the topic. Why don't we talk about PSA's future? I just heard a RUMOR today about a reduction to our guarantee. Anyone heard something similar? Something to think about if you're considering downgrade vs. commuting.
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This is getting wayyy off the topic. Why don't we talk about PSA's future? I just heard a RUMOR today about a reduction to our guarantee. Anyone heard something similar? Something to think about if you're considering downgrade vs. commuting.
I haven’t heard anything like that, but the Negotiating committee has been adamant that they are not accepting concessions.
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I hope so. Especially not after the displacement announcement.


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I haven’t heard anything like that, but the Negotiating committee has been adamant that they are not accepting concessions.
Concessions don’t save jobs. I’m ~15 from the bottom at my new job and really hope the union doesn’t agree to concessions. I would rather have a good job to come back to than a ****ty job now.
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Concessions don’t save jobs. I’m ~15 from the bottom at my new job and really hope the union doesn’t agree to concessions. I would rather have a good job to come back to than a ****ty job now.
I absolutely agree.
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