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RJDriver900 03-21-2021 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3209745)
Yes Envoy sent out an email to some cadets about an opportunity to fly for PSA, should they choose to do that they’d be absolved of all obligations to pay envoy back for anything they’ve received. However my point was that some cadets have their ATP mins as well and were not extended that opportunity, seems to have been based on seniority in the program.


Ah I see now. Thank you for clearing that up.

Jdub2 03-21-2021 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3209745)
Yes Envoy sent out an email to some cadets about an opportunity to fly for PSA, should they choose to do that they’d be absolved of all obligations to pay envoy back for anything they’ve received. However my point was that some cadets have their ATP mins as well and were not extended that opportunity, seems to have been based on seniority in the program.

As I understood it although they would no longer be obligated to Envoy, they would be obligated to PSA instead.

CptnDave 03-21-2021 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jdub2 (Post 3209758)
As I understood it although they would no longer be obligated to Envoy, they would be obligated to PSA instead.

Yea but they’d be FO’s at PSA instead of cadets at envoy, it’s a win win situation for both party’s, PSA gets new hires that they don’t have to pay bonuses too, and the cadets get to be FO’s sooner than later. I’m pretty sure the envoy cadets already have been vetted and background checked too so they save time and money on that front too maybe.

tlamjaj 03-21-2021 03:08 PM

There are a number of cadets who will be free to walk away from their contract without financial penalty in the near future if Envoy does not give them a class date.

Crimson37Roger 03-21-2021 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3209751)
You’re right they entered that contract to fly at a company, however they never got the opportunity to do so. And now other regionals are hiring not to mention other Wholly owned regionals and envoy doesn’t have any intentions on training them anytime soon supposedly. But some of them can go to PSA, as if they were already PSA cadets and others were not extended that opportunity yet, but hopefully they will be.

meanwhile 220 Envoy FOs are still sitting around doing nothing. But the poor cadets!!

Crimson37Roger 03-21-2021 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by tlamjaj (Post 3209788)
There are a number of cadets who will be free to walk away from their contract without financial penalty in the near future if Envoy does not give them a class date.

You have a copy of a cadet contract? They would have to put themselves through ATP-CTP and pass the ATP written before they’re eligible to be an FO according to the contract. It’s more than just reaching the ATP minimums.

CptnDave 03-21-2021 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Crimson37Roger (Post 3209793)
meanwhile 220 Envoy FOs are still sitting around doing nothing. But the poor cadets!!

They're getting paid tho...

Crimson37Roger 03-21-2021 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3209798)
They're getting paid tho...

And the cadets are too? I guess I just disagree with you.

CptnDave 03-22-2021 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by Crimson37Roger (Post 3209799)
And the cadets are too? I guess I just disagree with you.

No they don't get paid by envoy, they flight instruct and their paycheck is sent envoy and then to them from envoy with deductions for healthcare if they choose to get coverage. I think PSA and Piedmont do the same thing. The cadets can collect their bonuses however, most I know used it to fund their CFII, MEI, or to start paying back some student loans.

Dixie320 03-22-2021 03:23 AM

Has anyone received an email from recruiting saying that they have been put on the back burner?


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