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Old 03-26-2021 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by V4LKYR1ExONE
Definitely go directly to the PSA website and apply. Honestly even though it’s tedious, I recommend you check the direct career page of each of your target airlines at this point, I think they might all be looking at their own stack and not giving Airline Apps much attention because the hiring personnel suspect those applications could be stale. Also it’s not same-day service like it was before COVID. I’ve gotten a step at a time, a couple of days between each step.

VegasChris, don’t get too discouraged. Right at R-ATP mins isn’t bad, but you’re in a big pile of applications right now, in the running against pilots with A LOT more than the minimums because their career moves were delayed by a year. Industry outlook is good but the others are right, it’ll take time to get back to the shortage.
They can see when/how frequently you update your application on Airline Apps.
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Old 03-26-2021 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5
i give it 3-6 months max before bonus are back and regionals are struggling. The stack of highly qualified resumes isn’t that deep
We’re at a year of essentially zero hiring plus multiple folded airlines. That’s not going to evaporate in 6 months
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Old 03-26-2021 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by VegasChris
Got the thanks but not moving forward email. Right at R-ATP minimums.
Sorry man. Have not gotten that email yet but application status says "talent pool/not selected"
as of two days ago...
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Old 03-26-2021 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
They can see when/how frequently you update your application on Airline Apps.
True, but I don’t know a single pilot who doesn’t have multiple airlines targeted on Airline Apps. I’d imagine it’s widely known and accepted by airlines who use that service. Filling out one extensive app and then little addendums for several airlines and updating the hours each week is easy mode.

It’s entirely possible that a direct application says ‘I want this company enough to apply independently of that super convenient service everybody else uses’. I have no idea what the method to their madness is, but I was advised to apply direct by a PSA Pilot. If that’s what got PSA’s attention, then those who are asking for the “magic formula” should get that advice too.
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Old 03-26-2021 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AkPilot99
I will follow up with you. Hopefully I get the call for the technical soon. Did hr yesterday.
I was just informed they are swamped with applications to the tune of several hundred in the last two weeks so don’t get discouraged even if it takes longer than a couple of days.

For the technical, we started off with what was essentially a pre-brief of how the event would go which I really appreciated. From the start I was warned that the next step was a review board and that I wouldn’t hear back for a couple of days again. No more job offers on the spot, at least not until the pool empties out again. The technical is a one on one interview with a PSA pilot where the objective is to allow the applicant to demonstrate their current level of aeronautical knowledge.

If you aren’t instrument proficient it’s gonna be a struggle and you should brush up now. Currency per the FAA regs is not enough. CFIIs should do fine, but anybody who doesn’t have their head in IMC ops on at least a weekly basis will suffer.

Reading METARs/TAFs and briefing approach plates/STARs is part of it, but IFR decision-making was also discussed. Alternate regulations and missed approach procedures were covered in detail. The meaning of various symbols depicted on jepp plates was occasionally asked. I’m not very familiar with Jepp but their stuff is Pilot friendly. Look up their chart support guides and browse the symbology in your spare time. I did that and wished I’d had more than 2 days to familiarize myself. Most stuff you can figure out but confidence in knowing the answer makes a difference when you’re in the hot seat.

If you have 121 experience, expect them to pick your brain to see what you recall on pretty much all topics you happen across.

I got questions about the plane I most recently flew, but since I have an ATP type, we talked about that jet too. These kinds of questions are really just a cherry-picking assessment, imho. Weight limits, service ceilings, speeds, a couple of systems in a nutshell, etc. We also talked about engine failure procedures and some other multi-engine specifics like VMC and critical engines. There was another couple of 121 questions related to V1.

There weren’t any gotcha questions but it’s obvious they are serious about finding quality applicants. The whole interview lasted about an hour but it wasn’t a grill session, just a thorough assessment of my knowledge. We talked about our respective experiences and backgrounds and he gave me the opportunity at the end to ask questions about current operations as well. I asked a few questions there which I can elaborate on if y’all really want to know about stuff like training footprint, and next available class dates, reserve and upgrade timelines, base activity, etc.
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Old 03-26-2021 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by V4LKYR1ExONE
I was just informed they are swamped with applications to the tune of several hundred in the last two weeks so don’t get discouraged even if it takes longer than a couple of days.

For the technical, we started off with what was essentially a pre-brief of how the event would go which I really appreciated. From the start I was warned that the next step was a review board and that I wouldn’t hear back for a couple of days again. No more job offers on the spot, at least not until the pool empties out again. The technical is a one on one interview with a PSA pilot where the objective is to allow the applicant to demonstrate their current level of aeronautical knowledge.

If you aren’t instrument proficient it’s gonna be a struggle and you should brush up now. Currency per the FAA regs is not enough. CFIIs should do fine, but anybody who doesn’t have their head in IMC ops on at least a weekly basis will suffer.

Reading METARs/TAFs and briefing approach plates/STARs is part of it, but IFR decision-making was also discussed. Alternate regulations and missed approach procedures were covered in detail. The meaning of various symbols depicted on jepp plates was occasionally asked. I’m not very familiar with Jepp but their stuff is Pilot friendly. Look up their chart support guides and browse the symbology in your spare time. I did that and wished I’d had more than 2 days to familiarize myself. Most stuff you can figure out but confidence in knowing the answer makes a difference when you’re in the hot seat.

If you have 121 experience, expect them to pick your brain to see what you recall on pretty much all topics you happen across.

I got questions about the plane I most recently flew, but since I have an ATP type, we talked about that jet too. These kinds of questions are really just a cherry-picking assessment, imho. Weight limits, service ceilings, speeds, a couple of systems in a nutshell, etc. We also talked about engine failure procedures and some other multi-engine specifics like VMC and critical engines. There was another couple of 121 questions related to V1.

There weren’t any gotcha questions but it’s obvious they are serious about finding quality applicants. The whole interview lasted about an hour but it wasn’t a grill session, just a thorough assessment of my knowledge. We talked about our respective experiences and backgrounds and he gave me the opportunity at the end to ask questions about current operations as well. I asked a few questions there which I can elaborate on if y’all really want to know about stuff like training footprint, and next available class dates, reserve and upgrade timelines, base activity, etc.
thanks for the report! It’s much appreciated. I’m just a few days behind you in the time line it seems like. I did the HR Wednesday. Just waiting on the call for the technical now.
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Old 03-26-2021 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AkPilot99
thanks for the report! It’s much appreciated. I’m just a few days behind you in the time line it seems like. I did the HR Wednesday. Just waiting on the call for the technical now.
I'm in the same boat as you as well. Submitted HR Wednesday evening and waiting for the call hopefully
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Old 03-26-2021 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by V4LKYR1ExONE
I was just informed they are swamped with applications to the tune of several hundred in the last two weeks so don’t get discouraged even if it takes longer than a couple of days.

For the technical, we started off with what was essentially a pre-brief of how the event would go which I really appreciated. From the start I was warned that the next step was a review board and that I wouldn’t hear back for a couple of days again. No more job offers on the spot, at least not until the pool empties out again. The technical is a one on one interview with a PSA pilot where the objective is to allow the applicant to demonstrate their current level of aeronautical knowledge.

If you aren’t instrument proficient it’s gonna be a struggle and you should brush up now. Currency per the FAA regs is not enough. CFIIs should do fine, but anybody who doesn’t have their head in IMC ops on at least a weekly basis will suffer.

Reading METARs/TAFs and briefing approach plates/STARs is part of it, but IFR decision-making was also discussed. Alternate regulations and missed approach procedures were covered in detail. The meaning of various symbols depicted on jepp plates was occasionally asked. I’m not very familiar with Jepp but their stuff is Pilot friendly. Look up their chart support guides and browse the symbology in your spare time. I did that and wished I’d had more than 2 days to familiarize myself. Most stuff you can figure out but confidence in knowing the answer makes a difference when you’re in the hot seat.

If you have 121 experience, expect them to pick your brain to see what you recall on pretty much all topics you happen across.

I got questions about the plane I most recently flew, but since I have an ATP type, we talked about that jet too. These kinds of questions are really just a cherry-picking assessment, imho. Weight limits, service ceilings, speeds, a couple of systems in a nutshell, etc. We also talked about engine failure procedures and some other multi-engine specifics like VMC and critical engines. There was another couple of 121 questions related to V1.

There weren’t any gotcha questions but it’s obvious they are serious about finding quality applicants. The whole interview lasted about an hour but it wasn’t a grill session, just a thorough assessment of my knowledge. We talked about our respective experiences and backgrounds and he gave me the opportunity at the end to ask questions about current operations as well. I asked a few questions there which I can elaborate on if y’all really want to know about stuff like training footprint, and next available class dates, reserve and upgrade timelines, base activity, etc.
Did you also post your experience on aviation interviews? https://www.aviationinterviews.com/p...rlines-52.html
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Old 03-26-2021 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bpascal
I'm in the same boat as you as well. Submitted HR Wednesday evening and waiting for the call hopefully
Man, it’s stressful is it not? I hope the best for all of you guys and the possibilities of seeing you in class!
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Old 03-26-2021 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Taco
Did you also post your experience on aviation interviews? https://www.aviationinterviews.com/p...rlines-52.html
This is a highly detailed write up that would be perfect for other guys. I’ve been studying the PSA section of that website in and out as well as going over my instrument ground through Sportys. I’m a CFII, Part 135 PIC and I have a lot of instrument dual given but I want to be as prepared as I can.
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