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Old 01-18-2021 | 04:16 AM
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Most creditors no matter their priority position do not want any kind of bankruptcy. Bankruptcy for creditors is uncertainty.
Creditors also don’t want a company to burn through all of their cash to a point that liquidation becomes the likely outcome. There’s a floor for the cash burn at AA.
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Old 01-18-2021 | 05:26 AM
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The question isn’t “do creditors like bankruptcy”

the question is “when bankruptcy is inevitable (or nearly so), do creditors ever want bankruptcy sooner.

Forcing a company with 6 weeks of liquidity into chapter 11 works way better than 6 hours
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Old 01-18-2021 | 06:00 AM
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There has got to be something in the works from daddy AA coming down the line. PSA loses 20 airframes, company says they're grossly overstaffed and furloughs and downgrades more than any other regional. Nothing changes and no new airframes (yet) and they bring back everyone PLUS some people with CJOs. And also some of these people with CJOs haven't even done the ATP-CTP course so they're spending additional money to send them out there for that. Seems to be a strange strategy for sure.
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Old 01-18-2021 | 06:17 AM
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Does anyone have the latest numbers on attrition? I know we had people bailing almost as fast as when the majors were still hiring at the best of times. I'm thinking it's more likely management had no idea we would continue to hemorrhage pilots after furloughing. It seems like they needed to thin the herd but turned up the heat too much. For example, I've never had a pay issue in my time here. Suddenly I'm having to file pay descrepencies three out of the last four months. Not to mention hearing of people not getting relocation pay after their base is closed.
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Old 01-18-2021 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by arbalist1
Does anyone have the latest numbers on attrition? I know we had people bailing almost as fast as when the majors were still hiring at the best of times. I'm thinking it's more likely management had no idea we would continue to hemorrhage pilots after furloughing. It seems like they needed to thin the herd but turned up the heat too much. For example, I've never had a pay issue in my time here. Suddenly I'm having to file pay descrepencies three out of the last four months. Not to mention hearing of people not getting relocation pay after their base is closed.

I was wondering the same thing. I think I had heard somewhere all but like 60 or so accepted the recall? There's no flow and no one is hiring at the moment so I was wondering how many had left.
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Old 01-18-2021 | 08:09 AM
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“No one is hiring” isn’t true

ACMI continues to hire. There are some niche plays (ie open your own 135) and plenty of second career guys have options in their first career.

that said, attrition doesn’t explain new hires

some reshuffling in flight hours is in the works
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Old 01-18-2021 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GHawk
Build up the bench while training them with taxpayer money then furlough when need be? If the sims are idle and the instructors aren’t needed for flying the line, this doesn’t add a whole lot of expense beyond what, training hotels? I’m just trying to make sense of it.
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psa is about to be sold . A farmer always fattens up the cows and pigs before selling them at auction or at the slaughter house.
Keep eating and getting fatter , the chopping block is coming
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Old 01-18-2021 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
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psa is about to be sold . A farmer always fattens up the cows and pigs before selling them at auction or at the slaughter house.
Keep eating and getting fatter , the chopping block is coming
Let me try and figure this out. Somehow in a buyer's market, AAG wants to sell PSA, and even more, having extra pilots on staff when they're now a dime a dozen is going to help make the deal sweeter?

AAG definitely has a cash burn/debt situation that needs to be figured out, but what you're proposing doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?
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Old 01-18-2021 | 11:09 AM
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The only way PSA would get sold is in bankruptcy and bundled with a sweetheart contract with newAA. That would not be a bad thing for PSA employees
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Old 01-18-2021 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
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psa is about to be sold . A farmer always fattens up the cows and pigs before selling them at auction or at the slaughter house.
Keep eating and getting fatter , the chopping block is coming
oh snap, heard it here first, I better send in my resume to amazon to start driving.
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