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ZeroTT 06-06-2021 05:31 PM

They’re hiring for a mass departure event now. When that is done it will move to attrition. Nothing to see here.

jetlag q 06-09-2021 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3246458)
They’re hiring for a mass departure event now. When that is done it will move to attrition. Nothing to see here.

mass departure event??? Can I get fore info on that??

ZeroTT 06-09-2021 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by jetlag q (Post 3247743)
mass departure event??? Can I get fore info on that??

Not everybody came back with the recall.

Urban achiever 06-12-2021 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3247744)
Not everybody came back with the recall.

and attrition is way up. Guys who had a CJO that classes canceled.. well they’re being recalled now. Plus frontier, spirit, ACMI carriers, and FedEx / ups. We’re going to lose a lot of guys in a short amount of time.

lets not forget that the majors are about to resume hiring in a huge way with delta announcing 150 a month, and January 2022 they’ll be doing 200 a month.

UAL4Lyfe 06-12-2021 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Urban achiever (Post 3248957)
and attrition is way up. Guys who had a CJO that classes canceled.. well they’re being recalled now. Plus frontier, spirit, ACMI carriers, and FedEx / ups. We’re going to lose a lot of guys in a short amount of time.

lets not forget that the majors are about to resume hiring in a huge way with delta announcing 150 a month, and January 2022 they’ll be doing 200 a month.

UAL is hiring 200 per month as well. Look for dozens of pilots from PSA to be leaving for UAL and DAL every month.

I would bet that there will be a month at PSA where attrition (including flow) hits 50 pilots in a month. That will be a record.

Approach1260 06-12-2021 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by UAL4Lyfe (Post 3249005)
UAL is hiring 200 per month as well. Look for dozens of pilots from PSA to be leaving for UAL and DAL every month.

I would bet that there will be a month at PSA where attrition (including flow) hits 50 pilots in a month. That will be a record.

We can only hope.

I already saw that Skywest is offering a sign on bonus again already if you come in with a CRJ or ERJ type rating, so it certainly seems like they're prepping for some big attrition.

BurnerAccount69 06-12-2021 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by UAL4Lyfe (Post 3249005)
UAL is hiring 200 per month as well. Look for dozens of pilots from PSA to be leaving for UAL and DAL every month.

I would bet that there will be a month at PSA where attrition (including flow) hits 50 pilots in a month. That will be a record.

That would be glorious.

JayBee 06-12-2021 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Urban achiever (Post 3248957)
and attrition is way up. Guys who had a CJO that classes canceled.. well they’re being recalled now. Plus frontier, spirit, ACMI carriers, and FedEx / ups. We’re going to lose a lot of guys in a short amount of time.

lets not forget that the majors are about to resume hiring in a huge way with delta announcing 150 a month, and January 2022 they’ll be doing 200 a month.

and if they don't turn the flow back on/increase the flow only a dumba$s would come to this place as new hire, don't forget we were one of few that furloughed. i know you cfi's out there been drooling over a regional jet for all of covid but for christ sakes fu˘king buck up and take a chill pill, there's better options out there have a little patience

Throwitaway 06-12-2021 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 3249097)
and if they don't turn the flow back on/increase the flow only a dumba$s would come to this place as new hire, don't forget we were one of few that furloughed. i know you cfi's out there been drooling over a regional jet for all of covid but for christ sakes fu˘king buck up and take a chill pill, there's better options out there have a little patience

And just wait till when we lose the effectiveness of SAP that we have today, switch to PBS and require a lesser amount of pilots to staff the same amount of aircraft/flying. Seat movement will stagnate and QoL will plummet. Less days off and less flexibility. The flying we get from Daddy Doug has no sign of changing. The trips will continue to be mostly poor. There will be ZERO reason to come here unless you live in base with no other options. Kind of a Mesa scenario at that point.

chrisreedrules 06-12-2021 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 3249100)
And just wait till when we lose the effectiveness of SAP that we have today, switch to PBS and require a lesser amount of pilots to staff the same amount of aircraft/flying. Seat movement will stagnate and QoL will plummet. There will be ZERO reason to come here unless you live in base with no other options. Kind of a Mesa scenario at that point.

I know everyone thinks PBS is right around the corner, but I think we’re probably further away from it now than we were in 2020. And the longer the company waits to try and strike a deal the more leverage they lose in the current market. So meh. I wouldn’t get too worried about it.

2023 is when our contract is up and I foresee a multi-year section 6 negotiation ala Air Wisconsin. They’ll only improve things if they are forced to via attrition and inability to find new hires.

And the longer they wait the less of a carrot the flow is. Hiring is about to go completely nuts industry-wide and unless they make it attractive to stay, many will just leave as soon as they can.


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