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50–>76 with fewer a day
76–>mainline narrow body, with fewer a day
May even have milk runs like in the 1990s; Take a 76 or mainline narrow body and make multiple stops picking up a few at each stop, on the way to the hub. More a day, but not non-stop. We used to not shut down number 2 engine, 15 minute stop.
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In the near term it looks like we will be a steadily shrinking airline for the foreseeable future. The problem AA faces isn't one which will be easily or quickly solved (less than 12 months). There's just too many things involved for a staple or merger. The regional feed will shrink, these passengers will be forced to drive to larger cities for that summer vacation/holiday trip. The only thing we could possibly see would be more retention money but we are already nearing a wages of second or third year mainline FO rates. There is one thing we do know, AA will try the cheapest and easiest thing they can do which is always throw money at the problem to a certain extent, after that it is what it is and this is where we are today. Get your time and move on.
When you get close to flowing making less and commuting to reserve doesn’t look to fun. When your years away from flowing getting called to a major is exciting and takes the sting out of making less and commuting to reserve.
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They need to just increase the flow rate and send WO pilots to AA indoc for 1 day then send them back, then they can accrue longevity and seniority and make more than AA year 1 at the WO.
When you get close to flowing making less and commuting to reserve doesn’t look to fun. When your years away from flowing getting called to a major is exciting and takes the sting out of making less and commuting to reserve.
When you get close to flowing making less and commuting to reserve doesn’t look to fun. When your years away from flowing getting called to a major is exciting and takes the sting out of making less and commuting to reserve.
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They need to just increase the flow rate and send WO pilots to AA indoc for 1 day then send them back, then they can accrue longevity and seniority and make more than AA year 1 at the WO.
When you get close to flowing making less and commuting to reserve doesn’t look to fun. When your years away from flowing getting called to a major is exciting and takes the sting out of making less and commuting to reserve.
When you get close to flowing making less and commuting to reserve doesn’t look to fun. When your years away from flowing getting called to a major is exciting and takes the sting out of making less and commuting to reserve.
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I met a PSA F/O today who lives in my area. He's a SIC with over 900 hours so will upgrade in a few months.....if he's still around. He already has a UAL interview scheduled next month so may never get around to the upgrade. His career path was fairly typical, College Degree, ATP Flight School, recycle back in as a CFI until 1500 then to PSA. What is so stupid is that he wants to stay here in CLT, but AA isn't likely to interview him because he's so far from flowing, 5 years I think he said. He hasn't even applied to the ULCC's yet. If he gets a job offer from UAL he thinks maybe that will motivate AA to consider him, if not he's prepared to make DEN his home.
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I met a PSA F/O today who lives in my area. He's a SIC with over 900 hours so will upgrade in a few months.....if he's still around. He already has a UAL interview scheduled next month so may never get around to the upgrade. His career path was fairly typical, College Degree, ATP Flight School, recycle back in as a CFI until 1500 then to PSA. What is so stupid is that he wants to stay here in CLT, but AA isn't likely to interview him because he's so far from flowing, 5 years I think he said. He hasn't even applied to the ULCC's yet. If he gets a job offer from UAL he thinks maybe that will motivate AA to consider him, if not he's prepared to make DEN his home.
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I met a PSA F/O today who lives in my area. He's a SIC with over 900 hours so will upgrade in a few months.....if he's still around. He already has a UAL interview... What is so stupid is that he wants to stay here in CLT, but AA isn't likely to interview him because he's so far from flowing, 5 years I think he said. He hasn't even applied to the ULCC's yet. If he gets a job offer from UAL he thinks maybe that will motivate AA to consider him, if not he's prepared to make DEN his home.
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Also, he's being smart and doing the full Monty for the interview. Professional resume review and practice interviews with a company that specializes in that.
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Got an update on my neighbor today. He is still interviewing with UAL (900+ hour F/O at PSA) but it's going to be at an upcoming job fair, not at UAL's main facility. Now he also has scored an interview with AA at the same fair. I found this a bit surprising since he's years away from flowing. Maybe AA is using some common sense knowing that they'll lose him one way or the other. I've been out of the game for a number of years so I don't know if a job fair interview can lead to a CJO or just a chance for an interview at the main facility for that airline.
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I met a PSA F/O today who lives in my area. He's a SIC with over 900 hours so will upgrade in a few months.....if he's still around. He already has a UAL interview scheduled next month so may never get around to the upgrade. His career path was fairly typical, College Degree, ATP Flight School, recycle back in as a CFI until 1500 then to PSA. What is so stupid is that he wants to stay here in CLT, but AA isn't likely to interview him because he's so far from flowing, 5 years I think he said. He hasn't even applied to the ULCC's yet. If he gets a job offer from UAL he thinks maybe that will motivate AA to consider him, if not he's prepared to make DEN his home.
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