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Old 05-31-2011 | 03:43 PM
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If you live in CLT then definitely PSA might be good choice for you. The preferential hiring was an agreement set by alpa to alpa. Since mainline isn't alpa anymore, there is no more preferential as of right now. But they are working on that, and they are taking 16 from PSA and 12 from PDT that they hired 3 years ago. Most of us here are trying to be optimistic that mainline will take a lot from us so there will be movement. I see upgrading here faster than xjt.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 07:27 AM
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You will be on reserve at Psa for upwards of a year maybe more. We don't expect a new contract for at least a year maybe two. If you can live in a Psa base then fine pick us. If you have to commute then it would be a no brainer. Pick xjt.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
it is just my opinion based on what I see here and other sites. Usually the more vocal prounion guys post on forums while most old timer company guys don't. Since I see 90% of the posts by asa people willing to cave I can only assume that is the majority based on stats.
False facts and you should know what an assumption is!!
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Old 06-01-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious...

ASA is how many times larger than PSA is, again?
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Old 06-01-2011 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Obvious troll is obvious...

ASA is how many times larger than PSA is, again?
What's that mean exactly?

PSA if you live in base would be my choice. However you are asking basically, "Which crappy regional is better?" At the end of the day it will be what you make of it. I know both groups have good pilots and crews to fly with. Both have their own issues and both have pros.

To clear a few things up the preferential hire program is NOT currently in place. However it would be in place tomorrow if USairways MGT and PSA and or PDT wanted it to be.... It had nothing to do with ALPA and was set up between the MGT of USairways and PSA/PDT. Also there are only 15 pilots from PSA going to Mainline, not the orginal 16 as one is going to decline the offer.

With that we are losing some FO's as well. I know I was sitting at 470 for the longest time here at PSA and right now we have a newer (less then 3 month FO) sitting at 470 on the seniority list. We also have some, as I'm sure Xjet does, Captains whom are done with Phase 2 of Jetblue and waiting for a class date.

At the TIME being I will say Xjets contract is stronger. However that could change tomorrow if PSA would complete our contract. But it seems like MGT right now is stalling due to the rest/duty laws about to go into place August 1st.

Lastly it is your choice. Pay will be about the same at either place. Both groups have good pilots and great crews..... Xjet has a better CURRENT contract but PSA is well into their current negotiations and hopefully will have that wrapped up by years end....

There seems to be a SMALL rumor, which I dont care for much, but that PSA/Airways got a sweet deal to extend 200 leases to 2019.... However I have not been in a recurrent to ask about this.... Also it does not seem to make sense to me either but its been floating around now.... If so that would be a good thing for PSA as well....
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Old 06-01-2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
What's that mean exactly?
You'll have a much larger number of "5 percenters" in a pilot group of 2400 vs. a pilot group of 600.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
I'm sorry I just don't think that will happen. Asa pilots are already willing to cave on everything and skywest will play everyone against each other, I expect status quo on acontract. @ psa you have a guranteed job at real airline. Do 5 years at psa then move on. That right there is worth more than anything.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo...


a real airline pilot makes $25 an hour his first year. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA


I say go to republic, now thats a real airline.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 10:25 AM
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Some of you might be content aiming low and wasteing your life at a subpar regional but I want to move on to an airline that can stand on its own two feet. Yes usair is 25 an hour the first yeat but thats just the first year. Also republic IS a real airline they sell their own tickets and buy their own planes. Out of all the regionals they are the best choice. If you can't get on with them get on with an airline that will get you to the majors first. Psa may not be great but it serves its purpose I would pick it over xjt any day of the week. Xjt is the next comair.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
I'm sorry I just don't think that will happen. Asa pilots are already willing to cave on everything and skywest will play everyone against each other, I expect status quo on acontract. @ psa you have a guranteed job at real airline. Do 5 years at psa then move on. That right there is worth more than anything.
This is 100% INCORRECT. AT PSA you have nothing but an RJ job, which is the same you have at ExpressJet. You aren't guaranteed anything. Just ask a ExpressJet guy who had a 'guaranteed job' at Continental only to have Continental Express spun off and the flow through cancelled. Many had a letter in their hands with a Continental class date only to have that letter replaced with a 'preferential interview' letter. Many did much more then 5 years before they could move on.

Point being, you aren't guaranteed anything. PSA could be sold, or Us Airways could be fragmented and sold. It happened to Pan Am.

My advice is to interview and take the job you are offered. This industry is a little bit of interivew prep and a lot of blind luck. ExpressJet will be merged with ASA & run by Skywest, but all of those airlines have a lot of 50 seat RJ's that are becoming expensive and uneconomical. Whether that effects them long term is yet TBD. It really is a crapshoot.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 03:05 PM
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If PSA has a base where you live then apply. All else, go for XJT. If you do apply to PSA then let one of us know cause the "selection process" at PSA is a joke. PM me and we will get the ball rolling for you.
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