Unfortunately in this industry the wholly-onwed aren't viewed as loving children. Its more like the fat kid that is costing them too much. I agree there should be some benefit to being owned by the carrier, but in the end the flying is just going to go to who can do it for two cents cheaper. Just look at Comair.

 

The wholly owned model doesn't work for mamma bear anymore. Is that the pilot's fault? Nope! I've got friends @ every current wholly owned & want them to have the best careers possible. No one should lose a job b/c another company took flying....unfortunately, MBA brains don't think like this.

 

Yes, but that was prior to AA becoming the apple of US's eye. IF we merge, I'll bet the Express brand is renamed American Eagle. It's a well known name, synonymous with American Airlines. Does that mean all 3 certificates will be combined? I dunno.

I don't think Airways intends to disperse of the wholly owneds all together. Of course I don't know, but I do know...

A) Airways has two of them.
B) There's been no explicit talk of doing away with us from Tempe
C) We've not seen a precipitous drawdown like Comair.

 

Eagle will merge. DOH will prevail.

 

Parker says he's not committed to AE. He has to see the financial's first. If I was a CEO, I'd prefer to get my regional pilots at 1st year scale or as close to it as possible. Will he choose to inherit a massively top-heavy seniority, overstaffed AE, 2/3's of whose fleet is 37-50 seaters and a huge debt drain ?

Not sure that outweighs the need for that much feed. It's just as possible he'll take the 47 CRJ's and bag the rest and with new orders for larger RJ's and offer employment to furloughed AE pilots to come in on the other certificates that get the new aircraft at first year pay. He'll have plenty of takers, as 1000 of any furloughed AE pilot cadre would be former F/O's formerly no more then 4th year scale at Eagle, so it's not a huge loss. Hundreds of Pinnacle pilots hitting the streets as well.

Not a good time for anyone to be counting their chickens prior to hatching.

 

***yawn***

 

oh thank god, now i can sleep comfortable. (humor)

 

That's funny right there.

 

I would not gloat on not having to be furloughed yourself, being that close to the bottom. after merge and sli are taken care of, parker can furlough and will, i will bet you there will be a single word in the contract that will allow it.

and the 200 plus mad dog's, parker wants them for nostalgia. you dont see the books and neither do I, but eagle will be here for at least 7 more years while they merge integrate at aa and parker if he wishes divest the eagle feed to others. AE logo is a trademark owned by AA, so parker can stick on any company he want to at that time. Dont care, to early to worry. My worries lie with the loser mec AT AE.

 

I see you've made a lot of statements WRT this lately. Your statements make it clear you don't understand what's going on. For one, Open skies isn't in effect everywhere. And maybe you haven't been paying attention, but UCAL & DAL are fighting to regain scope. SWA continues their fight everyday. The same goes for FedEx and UPS. Delta pilots continue to be actively engaged in Joint Ventures. The current JV between DAL/Air France/KLM/Alitalia requires that 50% of the flying goes to Delta. The other 50% is divided among the remaining 3 pilot groups. Things aren't perfect, but we are working on improving them. You really shouldn't make blanket statements about things you aren't familiar with.