PDT/ EAGLE/ PSA's role at the new AA
04-23-2012, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by theHub
Hopefully they just merge EAGLE/PDT/PSA via DOH and drop RAH/AWAC/MESA.
1. Whether or not you like RAH/AWAC/MESA is beside the point. I think it's a shame you are HOPEFUL that these carriers lose out and all of their employees lose their jobs.
2. This mentality is the problem with so many regional pilots. I'm happy to secure my job, even if it comes off someone else's back.
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04-23-2012, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DashGirl
This is a simple equation really...The lift will go to the cheapest contract and the two losers get a new brand being merged into the one...It's probably gonna be PDT under an imposed total crap CBA.
well the cheapest airlines are losing money and are in bankruptcy. no guarantee the cheapest will fly.
04-23-2012, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by UpThere
You can tell two things from this statement..
1. Whether or not you like RAH/AWAC/MESA is beside the point. I think it's a shame you are HOPEFUL that these carriers lose out and all of their employees lose their jobs.
2. This mentality is the problem with so many regional pilots. I'm happy to secure my job, even if it comes off someone else's back.
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04-23-2012, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UpThere
You can tell two things from this statement..
1. Whether or not you like RAH/AWAC/MESA is beside the point. I think it's a shame you are HOPEFUL that these carriers lose out and all of their employees lose their jobs.
2. This mentality is the problem with so many regional pilots. I'm happy to secure my job, even if it comes off someone else's back.
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04-23-2012, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by UpThere
You can tell two things from this statement..
1. Whether or not you like RAH/AWAC/MESA is beside the point. I think it's a shame you are HOPEFUL that these carriers lose out and all of their employees lose their jobs.
2. This mentality is the problem with so many regional pilots. I'm happy to secure my job, even if it comes off someone else's back.
I will admit the phrase "Drop" was not the best choice of words.
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04-23-2012, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by theHub
Nope. Not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is that the US Airways wholly owned carriers have been getting screwed for years. Contract carriers can work on/obtain flying from anywhere. PDT/PSA relies on US Airways for our flying. It's just time for us to get a new fleet and some flying and let the contract carriers take what we can't cover. Not the other way around. I've said in many posts in the past that I don't want new flying and the cost of fellow pilots at other carriers. I have friends at all three of those carriers I mentioned. Merge the wholly owned carriers into 1 carrier, and contract out flying that the new wholly owned carrier, whoever the surviving name will end up being, can't cover to the contact carriers.
I will admit the phrase "Drop" was not the best choice of words.
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04-23-2012, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by slammer1906
I agree 100%! This is a good example of crabs in a bucket. Everyone knows that AWAC is notorious for investing in merged companies...they owned 13% of the new US Airways & secured 70 new birds overnight. RAH did something similar to this as well. Unfortunately, this is a bad precedent to set imo, but in the board room, it makes sense. After the transaction, no one at PDT or PSA lost their job...I do believe
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04-23-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slammer1906
I agree 100%! This is a good example of crabs in a bucket. Everyone knows that AWAC is notorious for investing in merged companies...they owned 13% of the new US Airways & secured 70 new birds overnight. RAH did something similar to this as well. Unfortunately, this is a bad precedent to set imo, but in the board room, it makes sense. After the transaction, no one at PDT or PSA lost their job...I do believe
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04-23-2012, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by theHub
Nope. Not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is that the US Airways wholly owned carriers have been getting screwed for years. Contract carriers can work on/obtain flying from anywhere. PDT/PSA relies on US Airways for our flying. It's just time for us to get a new fleet and some flying and let the contract carriers take what we can't cover. Not the other way around. I've said in many posts in the past that I don't want new flying and the cost of fellow pilots at other carriers. I have friends at all three of those carriers I mentioned. Merge the wholly owned carriers into 1 carrier, and contract out flying that the new wholly owned carrier, whoever the surviving name will end up being, can't cover to the contact carriers.
I will admit the phrase "Drop" was not the best choice of words.
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04-23-2012, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTPILOT
I don't want anyone to lose their job but you would think being a wholly owned carrier would have some benefits. We did furlough a couple years back as more flying was given to AWAC and other regionals. When allegheny/PDT merged we operated over 100 dash 8's. Were now at 44 and shrinking rapidly without replacement aircraft in sight. So yeah there is a little but of bad sentiment when our parent companies would rather give to other carriers than their own blood.... Would u be a little bitter if your parents left their inheritance to your cousin instead of you?
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