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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:28 PM
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another buddy who started with PSA today, stated that they are 38 people on the class.... I guess they don't have any problem getting Pilots...
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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Turboprop
another buddy who started with PSA today, stated that they are 38 people on the class.... I guess they don't have any problem getting Pilots...







There do seem to be a lot of sell-outs out there...
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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
Remember guys, Eagle overwhelmingly voted YES to concessions during bankruptcy when their parent company had $4 Billion in the bank and it was factually stated during the bankruptcy that Eagle was profitable. So Eagle voted yes to a huge pay cut when they were told they were profitable for AMR and that if they voted yes they would be re-fleeted with new 900s and 175s. Most of their anger comes from the fact that they THOUGHT they were getting new aircraft until USAirways came along. They are also mad that PSA pilots make more money with a better schedule than they do, it is so sad to see all of this obvious-to-everyone-except-Envoy-pilots hypocrisy.
Wrong on all counts. Accepting an agreeable bankruptcy contract which would be rammed down your throat by a judge anyways, and with a short term amendment round, or accepting a 10 year concessionary contract for nothing more than hanging on for dear life are vastly different.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
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Many people are saying "All Regional Pilots make me sick".


If you honestly believe that this contract is what hurt the industry, you are sadly mistaken. All pilots taking jobs that are low paying are hurting the industry. One is not doing so more than the others.



You're not even in the 121 world and already know it all? It's well known, where the best and worst places to work in the regional industry are. The bottom of that list is filled with PSA, PDT, Bendover, Mesa, and Gojet.
The fact that you are making so many excuses means you're either management, or already decided on working at one of those 5!
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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
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Many people are saying "All Regional Pilots make me sick".


If you honestly believe that this contract is what hurt the industry, you are sadly mistaken. All pilots taking jobs that are low paying are hurting the industry. One is not doing so more than the others.
It's economics. When there are lots of pilots and few jobs, wages go down. That is what has happened over the last decade.


Originally Posted by pagey
What exactly is "the truth about PSA pilots?"

Do tell.
Again, economics. In the midst of historical pilot shortages, PSA pilots took pay-cuts for a short term gain. In most industries, you would be labeled a w hore and criticized for undercutting the market. In this industry, you are a $€Ab.


Originally Posted by Pilotatheart
You need to calm down, you are too emotional. I do not work for PSA yet. If I do I am sure I will be fine over there. So what is the truth about the PSA pilots? Please enlighten me.
Again, it's economics. You will be fine, poor, but fine. Do yourself a favor and stay away.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slippery Puppy
Wrong on all counts. Accepting an agreeable bankruptcy contract which would be rammed down your throat by a judge anyways, and with a short term amendment round, or accepting a 10 year concessionary contract for nothing more than hanging on for dear life are vastly different.
I am correct on all counts. Eagle was profitable and you voted in larger concessions than PSA/PDT in hopes of getting new aircraft and an updated flow. Sorry it didn't work out but that is life, don't blame your contractual shortcomings on others.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
I am correct on all counts. Eagle was profitable and you voted in larger concessions than PSA/PDT in hopes of getting new aircraft and an updated flow. Sorry it didn't work out but that is life, don't blame your contractual shortcomings on others.
Sry you are so misinformed. I hope you aren't a mentor to anyone.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rgr331
It's economics. When there are lots of pilots and few jobs, wages go down. That is what has happened over the last decade.




Again, economics. In the midst of historical pilot shortages, PSA pilots took pay-cuts for a short term gain. In most industries, you would be labeled a w hore and criticized for undercutting the market. In this industry, you are a $€Ab.




Again, it's economics. You will be fine, poor, but fine. Do yourself a favor and stay away.
I always wanted to work for AMERICAN EAGLE but you elected to burn the old house down before you build a new one. There is nothing left, just ash and bunch of disgruntled pilots. Besides of that everybody needs to calm down including you, that's only a job. Jobs come and go.
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Old 09-30-2014 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Slippery Puppy
Wrong on all counts. Accepting an agreeable bankruptcy contract which would be rammed down your throat by a judge anyways, and with a short term amendment round, or accepting a 10 year concessionary contract for nothing more than hanging on for dear life are vastly different.
Ain't it funny how everyone has a legitimate excuse or logic behind what they've done or got suckered into but it's mind boggling to try and understand why someone else did what they had to?
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Old 09-30-2014 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
You're not even in the 121 world and already know it all? It's well known, where the best and worst places to work in the regional industry are. The bottom of that list is filled with PSA, PDT, Bendover, Mesa, and Gojet.
The fact that you are making so many excuses means you're either management, or already decided on working at one of those 5!
Wait, you better add Republic to that list. They have the worst contract out of all the 5 you listed.
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