Honestly, I am not sure about that. There is currently no new hire direct captain training program. Such a thing needs to be developed and approved by the FAA the last time that I checked. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that is the case.

They are currently expediting the IOE for previous 121 guys that want to upgrade.

There are about 70 FO's that are eligible for upgrade that are bypassing. Some of these have bypassed for years and are lifers in the right seat. Others are waiting until they can hold a line and not sit on reserve anymore. The company can do some things to make these eligible FO's want to upgrade, and that is what they will hopefully be working on right now.

The training program does exist...Initial can be for either PIC or SIC. It's in the Training Manual.

04-29-2015 | 02:58 AM

#3604

cartean

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Originally Posted by CLT Guy

Yup. The game has changed...again.

How long will it take to set up a training program for street captains?

It already exist. The Sim instructors hired off the street go through an initial PIC program.

04-29-2015 | 03:21 AM

#3605

Zivko

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You need 300 hours as an FO with the company to upgrade regardless of how much previous 121 time you have

04-29-2015 | 03:23 AM

#3606

Ramprat

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Originally Posted by Zivko

You need 300 hours as an FO with the company to upgrade regardless of how much previous 121 time you have

Not if you meet the requirements of paragraph 3.

04-29-2015 | 04:11 AM

#3607

FirstClass

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Originally Posted by Zivko

You need 300 hours as an FO with the company to upgrade regardless of how much previous 121 time you have

Not true, re-read.

04-29-2015 | 04:55 AM

#3608

Zivko

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

Not true, re-read.

My mistake

04-29-2015 | 05:30 AM

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For those who want to read the whole thing themselves:

Quote:

1. The aeronautical experience requirements for a pilot to be awarded a First Officer vacancy shall be those set forth in the Federal Aviation Regulations.

2. The aeronautical experience requirements for a pilot to be awarded a Captain vacancy shall be those set forth in the Federal Aviation Regulations in addition to the following:

a. The pilot must have completed initial qualification training as a First Officer (including any required differences training), and

b. Logged at least three hundred (300) hours of flight time as a First Officer with the Company. All time logged during OE shall count toward this 300 hour requirement.

3. Pilots who do not meet the criteria set forth in paragraph 2.a. and b. above who have a bid on file for a Captain vacancy, will be award a Captain vacancy provided:

a. The pilot has logged at least two thousand five-hundred (2500) hours of total flight time, and

b. Of the 2500 hours total flight time:

i. at least five-hundred (500) in a multi-engine turbine powered aircraft and, either:

ii. at least five-hundred (500) as Pilot In Command in FAR Part 121* operations, or

iii. at least one thousand (1000) hours logged as a Second In Command in FAR Part 121* operations.

iv. The requirements set forth in paragraph 3.b.ii. and iii., above may be combined by reducing the 500 hours of Part 121 PIC time by a commensurate amount of Part 121 SIC hours and vice versa. For example: 350 hours PIC plus 650 hours SIC. Or, 700 hours PIC plus 300 hours SIC.

Notes.
The references to FAR Part 121 in paragraph 3.b. are different than information you may have already provided – which may represent military, 91(k) and Part 135 flying. The reference in paragraph 3 is actual FAR Part 121 time (air carriers).

04-29-2015 | 06:59 AM

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Pilot Sharp

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Originally Posted by badtransam97

So what does all this mean for new guys coming on board? Anything? Also, are the reserve guys not flying much now? Previous poster said he was reserve in CLT and not flying much? I was under the impression that guys were flying quite a bit, so that a hotel/crashpad wasn't really even needed while on reserve?

I have broke garuntee last three months in a row. Crediting between 88-80 hours on month on reserve in Charlotte. I have been 0500 short call in Charlotte the entire time and I always put my name on the will fly list.