One post prior you accuse PSA of rationalizing concessions, then go on to do the same. Pitiful.

 

So PSA lowered the bar and that made it okay for Envoy to lower the bar for every other regional currently in negotiations? Now should Republic, Mesa, GoJet, Express Jet, etc. follow you and keep lowering the bar? That's how you're justifying it. Great job Envoy for continuing to lower the bar for the rest of us.

Now Republic has asked American to reduce our flying for the summer because we cannot staff it. We cannot staff it because of our contract. Envoy is making up for some of that lost flying. What does that say about Envoy?

Envoy didn't vote "no" or "hold the line" for the pilot community as a whole, they did it for themselves. And when they finally voted "yes" they didn't do it with the pilot community in mind they did it for themselves. If not, they would've voted no. You're no less selfish. You haven't helped the industry or your fellow pilots elsewhere.

 

My point is every airline and every pilot group can be accused and found guilty. Each has a questionable past. But we are all from the same flight schools, similar backgrounds, and similar goals. This tit for tat and dick measuring is pointless.

I like PSA and Envoy pilot groups. Great people at both. And of course a few bad ones. I don't blame either for the choices they have made. It's just business.

 

He proved my point. Muahahaha


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Exactly. This needed to be said by someone other than a PSA or ENY employee.

 

Bud for the most part, everyone has being saying this. Every once a week or so, I pass through this site and continuously see ENY and PSA guys arguing. Then I realize its only always ENY and PSA guys arguing. Personally I respect both pilot groups. I live in Florida so I'm constantly jumpseating on both equipment. PSA guys are always pleasant and respectful.... Always. ENY guys always... go out there way to get me on and some of the funniest bunch of boys I've come across, have me in stitches every time . Its just strange that these same guys have held on to so much animosity for so long towards each other. Good luck to the both of them though.

 

That's all fine and dandy up until the last sentence. Both parties forget that both are the losers in the matter. DUI dougie wins and business continues to boom for aa. Meanwhile nobody stood up in unity so everyone loses, except for shareholders which I happen to be. So actually thank you guys.

 

I agree completely. Especially with, "nobody stood up."

 

The real criminal here is ALPA. Eagles 700's being transferred to PSA then staffed with street captains? WTS? Why haven't we heard a peep from ALPA?
PSA didn't vote for those A/C. What did ALPA do to protect those jobs at Eagle?

 

Why did everything slow down at PSA, the real reason...? That's your answer