PSA stops hiring f/o's
05-23-2015, 07:03 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by Flubber
Hmmm...
AAG has Envoy (flow), Piedmont (flow) and PSA (guaranteed interview). Delta has Endeavor (flow); aren't all those at Compass who had flow rights already at DL? United has... um, er... Buehler?
If one wants to fly for American, then going to one of the WOs makes sense (I won't discuss pros and cons of each of the AAG WOs here as that's been hashed over and argued about in a bunch of threads here). That still leaves a number of options - although not as many as in the past - for anyone at a regional carrier to move to.
You are probably correct in that some of the regionals won't be around for the long term. We can only guess which ones they may be. Today's gem can be tomorrow's goat, and the only thing for sure in this industry is that nothing is certain until it's done. "Variables aren't, and constants won't," or something like that.
AAG has Envoy (flow), Piedmont (flow) and PSA (guaranteed interview). Delta has Endeavor (flow); aren't all those at Compass who had flow rights already at DL? United has... um, er... Buehler?
If one wants to fly for American, then going to one of the WOs makes sense (I won't discuss pros and cons of each of the AAG WOs here as that's been hashed over and argued about in a bunch of threads here). That still leaves a number of options - although not as many as in the past - for anyone at a regional carrier to move to.
You are probably correct in that some of the regionals won't be around for the long term. We can only guess which ones they may be. Today's gem can be tomorrow's goat, and the only thing for sure in this industry is that nothing is certain until it's done. "Variables aren't, and constants won't," or something like that.
I had no idea.
05-23-2015, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by schmohawk
Anyone know how many FO's will reach their 1000hrs part 121 in the next 2-3 months ?
The latest seniority lists shows 87 active F.O.'s who were hired in those four months. There are also 445 pilots on the list who were hired after April 2014, many of whom arrived with prior 121 SIC experience. These numbers also do not account for the pilots who were hired prior to January 2014 who likely have their 1000 and who have chosen to bypass upgrade.
So, in my best guess, I'd say that there are anywhere from 100 to 150 F.O.'s on staff who will have the minimum requirements to upgrade in the next 2 - 3 months.
05-23-2015, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi
Will people stop saying Endeavor has flow. I was there for 4.5 years and it's NOT flow. It's called SSP (Streamline selection process). You still have to interview. Just the psych eval is removed.
05-23-2015, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
For all intents and purposes it is a flow isn't it? The interview is just a formality. If its more than that then I guess you don't have anything really.
So I'd say it's more than a formality
05-23-2015, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
For all intents and purposes it is a flow isn't it? The interview is just a formality. If its more than that then I guess you don't have anything really.
05-23-2015, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
At TSA, the pay is higher and the upgrade is nearly the same. Plus the contract doesn't allow street captains. PSA isn't the premier anything.
They are probably comparable in pay at the moment, but what people don't grasp is that when PSA's critical pay was being paid contractually there are few pilots in the regional industry in an identical status to a PSA pilot that can match his combination of days off and credit. We will see how that goes later on in the year.
05-23-2015, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DOGIII
They are probably comparable in pay at the moment, but what people don't grasp is that when PSA's critical pay was being paid contractually there are few pilots in the regional industry in an identical status to a PSA pilot that can match his combination of days off and credit. We will see how that goes later on in the year.
05-23-2015, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
For all intents and purposes it is a flow isn't it? The interview is just a formality. If its more than that then I guess you don't have anything really.
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