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06-23-2022 | 01:17 PM
#6831
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90 days is a lie.
As of last month (before the pay rise) you will wait for ioe for 3 months, and ground/sim training for 4 months. So 7 months long, and that dosn't include the flood of applicants who will push it further to 10 months in the post pay-rise phase. Add to that, barely flying after ioe.
Much better to go to republic or EVEN MESA (for crj) and get training done in 2.5-3 months, fly 100 hours a month, hold a line instantly out of training, and move to spirit/southwest/jetblue after a year or year and half of flying. You'll be way ahead of the game.
But, thats not the only reason you shouldn't come to PSA, the atrocious training quality is another reason. Go to Envoy/Piedmont instead.
As of last month (before the pay rise) you will wait for ioe for 3 months, and ground/sim training for 4 months. So 7 months long, and that dosn't include the flood of applicants who will push it further to 10 months in the post pay-rise phase. Add to that, barely flying after ioe.
Much better to go to republic or EVEN MESA (for crj) and get training done in 2.5-3 months, fly 100 hours a month, hold a line instantly out of training, and move to spirit/southwest/jetblue after a year or year and half of flying. You'll be way ahead of the game.
But, thats not the only reason you shouldn't come to PSA, the atrocious training quality is another reason. Go to Envoy/Piedmont instead.
06-23-2022 | 01:25 PM
#6832
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PM'd about the training. Regarding pay, yes you are still paid to sit at home doing nothing. But you'll lose proficiency which could lead to an ugly IOE, and will not build hours during that time. Which is why its better to finish your training in 3 months at other airlines and fly 95-100 hrs a month right away.
06-23-2022 | 01:34 PM
#6833
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I’m currently in sims. I waited 2 months between ground school and arriving for sims. We are paid continuously at the 75 hour guarantee from day 1 of ground school. My experience has been pretty positive overall. Majority of the instructors in ground school were good. In sims the instructors have been professional and helpful. No complaints so far
06-23-2022 | 02:42 PM
#6834
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I’m currently in sims. I waited 2 months between ground school and arriving for sims. We are paid continuously at the 75 hour guarantee from day 1 of ground school. My experience has been pretty positive overall. Majority of the instructors in ground school were good. In sims the instructors have been professional and helpful. No complaints so far
06-23-2022 | 03:05 PM
#6835
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I been here for 2 years. You can't say PSA training is phenomenal compared with republic/envoy/endeavor/literally any other regional.Instructors are great, a few examiners at PSA is what gives the training department a bad image.
06-23-2022 | 04:06 PM
#6836
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This is wrong. When HALF of the captain upgrades fail training, or ~60% of new FO class fail something between the oral and mv/loe, and most everyone remaining needs extra training, you know something is wrong with the training department. Especially if those who are already CRJ type rated fail.
I been here for 2 years. You can't say PSA training is phenomenal compared with republic/envoy/endeavor/literally any other regional.Instructors are great, a few examiners at PSA is what gives the training department a bad image.
I been here for 2 years. You can't say PSA training is phenomenal compared with republic/envoy/endeavor/literally any other regional.Instructors are great, a few examiners at PSA is what gives the training department a bad image.
06-23-2022 | 04:57 PM
#6837
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This is wrong. When HALF of the captain upgrades fail training, or ~60% of new FO class fail something between the oral and mv/loe, and most everyone remaining needs extra training, you know something is wrong with the training department. Especially if those who are already CRJ type rated fail.
I been here for 2 years. You can't say PSA training is phenomenal compared with republic/envoy/endeavor/literally any other regional.Instructors are great, a few examiners at PSA is what gives the training department a bad image.
I been here for 2 years. You can't say PSA training is phenomenal compared with republic/envoy/endeavor/literally any other regional.Instructors are great, a few examiners at PSA is what gives the training department a bad image.
LMAO… dude your numbers are way off. Washout rate is 10-15% in a historical moving average. Direct entry captains tend to wash out way worse than anyone because primacy and their attitude coming in. There may be a one off class where 25% washed out, and the other 20-25% got another offer while in training and left, but overall I’ve been very happy with the training. From ground instructors to sims, even others who came as direct entries from gojet and air whisky were happy with the training soooo… yeah
06-23-2022 | 05:28 PM
#6838
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Im sure there are a lot of different perspectives on the training, but there have been a lot of "not great" posts about it for PSA and not so much on some of the other regionals. So there must be SOME truth to it. I think the bigger concern for me is the training footprint. I really have no interest in spending 6-10+ months getting onto an aircraft...getting paid or not.
06-23-2022 | 06:43 PM
#6839
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Im sure there are a lot of different perspectives on the training, but there have been a lot of "not great" posts about it for PSA and not so much on some of the other regionals. So there must be SOME truth to it. I think the bigger concern for me is the training footprint. I really have no interest in spending 6-10+ months getting onto an aircraft...getting paid or not.
06-27-2022 | 04:20 AM
#6840
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The training issues was never with instructors, it is the inconsistency of the checking. It was rampant during my time there and I definitely picked up on a trend where Mil guys were failing with a certain check airman…
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