I love it how you guys agreed to a crap contract and now complain about people picking up open time. We told you that the rates were crap and capped 4 year pay was bad. Did you listen ?

You made this bed.. You need to lay in it.

We did everything perfectly, what the heck are you talking about? This is about making the company abide by the contract, all we are talking about here is a few stragglers that need to be strong armed.

Another slow one. I'll write it in crayon for you.

They are violating the contract. If they actually followed it, we'd be making a lot more than everyone else. Try to keep up. Our critical pay supposedly cost the company $19 million. You do the math and spread that across 1200 pilots.

Has this really been a problem? I quit looking at open time last fall because there's literally nothing in there that worth picking up!

How hard up do you have to be to pick up a 4-day trip, (on your days off) that pays 8:16 (an avg. of 2:04 per day)? Yes, that's an actual trip in CLT open time right now. Or perhaps you need the extra pay from those 2-day trips, some of which pay less than 3 hours,...... TOTAL.

Imagine how much more would be in open time if people didn't build their lines up to 80+ hours during SAP and seniority trading but instead dropped to 65 hours.

There never was 175%. Critical is 150.

Exactly, thats by design. The company builds these trips intentionally so that with the carve outs it is still worth less than min day. They don't want pilots to pick up open time, it is actually cheaper for them to use a reserve, and if they have to junior man a trip it still only cost 30min more that it would have for a line holder.

Thats why we need the pilots that are able to SAP down to 75. There needs to be more open time than there are reserves in order to make critical pay cheaper than the slight possibility of junior manning.

My mistake, Thank you.

Open time ( SAP) is left over crap that was put together and was never part of any line. Join the Sch committee and see how it's done.

Ok, so if thats the case ( I don't have the facts either way) then the idea is still valid. Leave them with more left over crap than they can staff, and they will have to change something.