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Originally Posted by SEPfield
(Post 2069577)
Of course bases. Mesa has all hub bases. Why would you come to PSA for a measly $2 more per hour? That doesn't even cover the cost of a crash pad, much less the additional stress of a 2 leg commute to DAY.
The fast upgrade doesn't really apply unless you have previous 121 time. It doesn't matter if the airline is upgrading in 6 months or 2 years unless you have your 1000hrs. Also I think we all know that, baring a big slow down, all the regionals will have less than a 2 year upgrade in the next 2 years. And after upgrade you're right back to a 2 leg commute and a crash pad in DAY. |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 2069521)
Meanwhile Mesa and RAH are getting 20+ a Class.
If only PSA would listed up when everybody told them to hold the line. Oh well... Pay raises? You think that Parker will give PSA pay raises after accepting that crap at the first time? We are all in the same boat (PSA/PDT/ENY) and is not because of PDT or ENY. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2069523)
I still can't wrap my head around why Mesa would have anyone in class at all?
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
(Post 2069683)
Nonsense. PSA will again ascend to the top of the ladder. Daddy American doesn't like you guys, especially Envoy. There's a pecking order here, you guys need to learn your place.
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 2069707)
Yawn, who cares...it's all about money to Parker. They will keep all of us as cheaper as they can. It's funny to see you guys *****ing and whinning now.
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 2069707)
Yawn, who cares...it's all about money to Parker. They will keep all of us as cheaper as they can. It's funny to see you guys *****ing and whinning now.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2069815)
How are we different than any other airline who wants to see improvement in their pay and contract?
-PSA got concessions -PDT and ENY had to got concession and line up their payscales (12/4), health insurance (35%), etc. -We can say the same about flow, all of us are pretty similar -Commuter Hotel - ENY and PDT are the same -Recruiting tools (sign in bonus, pilot cadet program) And I'm talking WO as a 3 pilot group. AAG is aligning all the WO to the same pay, benefits, etc. The only WO airline getting contract improvement is Endevour, everybody else are contract carriers. We don't know how long before AAG take some feed away to incentive pilots that being in a WO is the way to go. And Parker said in a townhall a couple of months ago "once you have a contract, we can't change it because the industry changed". In other words, "sorry we only change the contract if we wanted changed, not because you want more money." |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 2069840)
Difference is that...
-PSA got concessions -PDT and ENY had to got concession and line up their payscales (12/4), health insurance (35%), etc. -We can say the same about flow, all of us are pretty similar -Commuter Hotel - ENY and PDT are the same -Recruiting tools (sign in bonus, pilot cadet program) And I'm talking WO as a 3 pilot group. AAG is aligning all the WO to the same pay, benefits, etc. The only WO airline getting contract improvement is Endevour, everybody else are contract carriers. We don't know how long before AAG take some feed away to incentive pilots that being in a WO is the way to go. And Parker said in a townhall a couple of months ago "once you have a contract, we can't change it because the industry changed". In other words, "sorry we only change the contract if we wanted changed, not because you want more money." |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 2069840)
And Parker said in a townhall a couple of months ago "once you have a contract, we can't change it because the industry changed". In other words, "sorry we only change the contract if we wanted changed, not because you want more money."
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 2069850)
I don't think anyone at PSA is demanding more money because we feel we deserve it. We're simply pointing out that in today's landscape of few pilots and many competitive offers from other regionals that our compensation offerings are rapidly falling to the bottom of the industry. What AAG chooses to do from here is entirely up to them.
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