I heard that the arbitrator made a decision that neither the company nor the pilot group will be happy about. I don't know any more details other than that though.

As has been explained to me, arbitrators have to walk a fine line between giving a windfall to the pilot group, therefore ensuring that a company will never use their services again, and giving a windfall to a company, therefore ensuring a pilot group will never hire them.

It's a semi flawed system in that regard.

Yes, but the pilot group changes with elections and has a short memory as the pilot group moves to greener pastures. The company not so much. The arbitor naturally has much more concern for keeping the company happy. If he didn't, he wouldn't have refused to make a decision and wouldn't have directed us back to the negotiating table 3 times after the same negotiations that failed in the first place.

Um, you should figure out how long our current CA Reps and MEC Chair have been with the company.

I'll give you a hint: it's far longer than our CEO, DO, and perhaps VP of Flight Ops.

Consider as well the institutional knowledge at National as well. I guarantee you that someone in Herndon knows the score on all the arbitrators.

Rumors are carried by haters
Spreaded by fools
And accepted by IDIOTS

Very good point. I think TR did a great thing by including pilots that don't plan on going anywhere. The pilot group needs that consistency. I don't give National that much credit.

I guess in my head I was thinking more along the lines of AA overseeing everything and pulling the strings.

I think it would be a mistake to conflate our current position and challenges at the regional level with the competency level that exists at National. The longstanding frustrations at the regionals have far more to do with market forces and what certain people in airline leadership (particularly at AAG) are failing to grasp about the changing pilot market. That ALPA an easy punching bag for people that stop learning about it at the moment they realize they can't strike at will doesn't actually mean anything.

Hold on there buddy. If what he says is correct and there has in fact been a ruling by the arbitrator, and then you as the head of the union are covering up that there has been a ruling in favor of some kind of negotiation, you are doing a major dis service to the pilot group. To be clear, the pilot group deserves to know the facts of the situation. You are accountable to us not the other way.

If your only evidence that I'm TR is that I know more labor law than you do I guess that means that 90% the posters in this forum could be TR.

Just sayin'......

Fine. Resort to name calling.
The company has a contract to abide too. The union has obligations to hold the company to the contract. Our elected officials owe it to the union paying members to enforce it.
I've lost over $75k in two years. If in fact the union has known for 2 months that the arbitration was settled they are required to inform the pilot group.
Those that filled out PRF's are due answers. If we aren't getting 30% of our income then let us know, So we can find representation outside of ALPA.