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Old 03-08-2017 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo
Indeed. Someone get him some cheese for that whine. I really hope his airline collapses after he and the rest if Inc have destroyed at least two perfectly good pilot groups. The pilots will be fine and they shouldn't go fly for Skywest, but instead fly for a Skywest competitor
Lol, you sound like a sad individual with a **** poor attitude.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 155mm
What's their solution? Have the young generation take out hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans? Brilliant, lets enslave these young bright kids for the rest of their natural lives!
I agree. We need to look out for those who would dream to become pilots and are still too young to know better than to take on irresponsible debt.

But, I don't think solely looking to 21 y/o recent college grads is the right safety decision. The industry should be working to attract pilots from other areas of aviation (charter, military, corporate...) and second-career professionals.

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Old 03-08-2017 | 04:51 PM
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Yep...the regionals are feeling a pilot shortage. Simply put, it's hard to find a large number of college graduates willing to work for $20-$40,000/year in any field.

The bonuses help entice a pilot who already wants to work for a regional to come work for yours instead of a competitor. However, it'll take overall wage hikes for year 3+ before good pilots who had to go find other higher paying employment to support their families decide to come back. If the bonus brings pay up to about what you make now for 2 years, then in year 3 the pay goes back in the toilet, you aren't going to leave your non-flying job to come to a regional.

There are plenty of pilots out there. One of my instructors about 4 years ago left the regionals to go back to instructing because he made significantly more as a full time CFI. Make pay competitive with other industries that require a college education (whether you have one or not, you paid for one), and you will staff your flying no problem.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 04:52 PM
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This is good for us! the regional model should die sooner than later.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Lol, you sound like a sad individual with a **** poor attitude.
Oh really? Why is that? Please educate me with your wisdom.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:17 PM
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Was just thinking about all the people who want a living wage at $15/hr.
$15hr x 40hrs x 52 weeks = $31,200 a year for a burger flipper

According to this website Horizon pays a first year FO $31 per flight hour. The calculator below it says at $31hr and 75 hours a month you'll get $2325. Now I don't know what else is added on to that, per diems or whatever, but if it were $2325 a month ($27,900 a year) the person on the intercom asking if you want fries with that gets paid more money then the Horizon Air pilot!

Hmmm, I wonder why there is a pilot shortage at the regionals...




I'm sure that math will be off a bit, but bottom line is they don't pay enough. I bet if regionals started off around $75k there wouldn't be a shortage.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo
Oh really? Why is that? Please educate me with your wisdom.
Just read your message. It's all there for the internet to see.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
This!

Childs is a greedy idiot that just wants his supply of 250 wonders back that are willing to work for poverty wages. Keep the numbers where they are and make it worthwhile for people to achieve them.
SkyWest had never lowered it's mins below 1000/100 ever! late 06 into 07 when all regionals dropped mins to com multi cert, or, please have a multi rating before you show to ground school types, 00 was still 1000/100.
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:43 PM
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It isn't about providing loans for student pilots. Medical students don't have any trouble getting loans because they know they Will get a great paying job right out of training....while most student pilots know they have to wait years for that great paying job. So anyone smart now a days know it isn't beneficial to get swapped in loans they know they can't pay back because of the lack of great paying jobs out of the gate.


You don't see any shortage or Medical students do you? Wonder why......
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Old 03-08-2017 | 05:46 PM
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If the regionals want to exist in 5 years they need to match the pay scales that the majors have for 76 seaters. Somewhere around $150CA and $80FO...
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