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Old 03-09-2017 | 09:42 PM
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Flight training is not only FREE, they will PAY you to do it! And a salary that exceeds the regional airlines today. Call your local recruiter, and join the military. Stop the incessant whining of kids who want instant gratification. Stop the debt. Join today, serve your country, and get the #1 in flight education available.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 12:31 AM
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First year at Republic, before bonus, I made $39,000-$40,000. Add $7500 for the bonus.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Flight training is not only FREE, they will PAY you to do it! And a salary that exceeds the regional airlines today. Call your local recruiter, and join the military. Stop the incessant whining of kids who want instant gratification. Stop the debt. Join today, serve your country, and get the #1 in flight education available.
You are proposing that prospective pilots join the Army or Marines in order to get their hours in a rotor wing, so they can come out and try to transition to fixed wing and get their ratings in 250 hours with little support other than their GI bill?

There just aren't enough fixed wing pilots coming out of the military these days, unless they are drone pilots (which doesn't count). Not enough fixed wing pilots since the budget sequester went into effect.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Age 67/70 here we come.
A guy at the FAA told me that they were targeting age 68.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
What picket line did those NAI pilots cross? I forget...


Since it's impossible to engage in self help, the NAI pilots crossed the same line PSA crossed a few years back. When the rest of an industry stands up against sub par wages and working conditions, and you gladly accept them, you're a scab.

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Old 03-10-2017 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
More stupidity...

He is only pointing out how much of the ticket actually pays for the crew. It's a small percentage of the ticket, meaning a very small increase in the ticket price could be used to substantially increase the wages for the crew.
So I guess every single flight is booked to max capacity?
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Old 03-10-2017 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
So I guess every single flight is booked to max capacity?
Most. And many are oversold.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 04:05 AM
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Mainline load factor around 80% capacity and regionals typically hover around 70%. That's pretty good for DAL, UAL, and AA. The other non-feed carriers will have different numbers, although I think SWA has historically had one of the lowest LFs out there.

Keep in mind all carriers have a revenue department and their job is to maximize revenue for each flight. It's probably the most important department at an airline. If they could raise ticket prices "just a few dollars" right now they would.

If you listened to any of the recent calls and looked at some quarterlys you'd see yield is dropping along with load factor. This isn't a good combo. Hopefully 4Q 2016 was the last of it, they all issued statements it would hopefully have bottomed out then.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 04:49 AM
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Pilot pay in the regionals is still $hit for the type of work it is regardless of raises. No captain of an airline jet should be making less than 100K starting salary. The amount of responsibility and technical knowledge required is very high and requires a lot of work. It's you and your FO up there, nobody else. Yet most regional captains make what the average nurse makes. Don't even get me started on this FO pay.
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Old 03-10-2017 | 04:58 AM
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The best solution for pilots is what UAL did in the 1960s...they hired people with a PPL and a HS diploma, and then trained them up to where they wanted them to be. No loans, and no government assistance...

The military route? They don't hire many pilots to fly inside a plane anymore, and most kids in the US are not qualified for the military. For example, my older son was interested in being a military intelligence analyst. He was not qualified for the military, so had 0% chance of getting that job.
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