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Old 03-09-2017 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
That wouldn't work either. If everyone was handed out a 1% loan flight schools would just charge more for the same instruction.

Maybe something like that after you pay for your own PPL, the player has to have some skin in the game.
Makes sense. Even with loans, there still has to be something worthwhile on the other side so the investment in the expensive training makes sense. No one wants to pull out a $100,000 education loan knowing they'll only be making $30,000 per year. Too much risk with little guaranteed reward.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
That wouldn't work either. If everyone was handed out a 1% loan flight schools would just charge more for the same instruction.

Maybe something like that after you pay for your own PPL, the player has to have some skin in the game.
The rate of a loan should have nothing to do with the cost of training. The flight schools don't make money on the interest.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Saucy Dingo
This. People are too smart to catapult themselves into debt with no guarantee of a return of investment. Well, most people.
This industry is hooked on people doing the opposite of what you're saying.
Every graduating HS class in America that has at least one kid dreaming of flight.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 01:49 PM
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Why don't the regionals do what the military does, train a guy from 0-to-hero and once they are a hero give them a 6-8 year commitment. The commitment can even have a clause about paying for your training if you leave early, since it is easier to quit a regional than it is the military.

This way the regionals have a pilot pipeline, and the pilots get free training and a guaranteed job.

Basically a win-win
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Old 03-09-2017 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
This industry is hooked on people doing the opposite of what you're saying.
Every graduating HS class in America that has at least one kid dreaming of flight.
Parents don't always let their kid make dumb, err.. risky investments. Plus the cost of flight training has skyrocketed in recent years. It's not such an attractive financial risk to take anymore.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 02:02 PM
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Sorry for the reposts, but this is too important to get buried in pages of chatter.

We have to beat them at their own game. Crying on the forum only goes so far. Time to take action. Main feedback email: [email protected] and the general email is [email protected]
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Old 03-09-2017 | 02:19 PM
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The fix has to come from mainline not the regional, they call all the shots anyways. There's little meat on bone at the regional level.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The rate of a loan should have nothing to do with the cost of training. The flight schools don't make money on the interest.
If it is easier for the student to pay for the training, the flight schools will increase their rates. For example, I know for a fact that flight schools will increase the cost of training for students that have university (loan) or government funded training (GI Bill, VA) simply because they can "afford" the surcharges, and the increased prices don't affect their decision to fly for "free"... The government should stay far, far away from this, on the civilian side.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucknut
I worked in an abinitio program where we trained 250 hour pilots to get a Dc-9 type rating. These pilots came out with a good understanding of how to fly in airline environment by teaching them dispatch rules, decision making and how to interpret and follow the rules in an FOM. It does not take 1500 hundred hours to be proficient in operating an aircraft in the airline environment. ....
If I had a 250 hour pilot in my right seat, I would not leave the cockpit.

Instructing in a fixed based or full motion simulator is great but it is no replacement for experience. I am quite sure I could take any one of your 250 hour wonders and with no effort expose their ignorance.
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Old 03-09-2017 | 03:18 PM
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I dont get it...if yall hate being at the regionals so much, why dont you just apply to one or more of the majors? Everyone is currently hiring, don't sit around and wait for yalls sector of aviation to improve.
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