were using our own Airplanes, (Emb-145 XR's)

Funny story: nobody cares about what you have to say.

While you do make a good point, I think the big difference is our compensation is higher than ASA's and, more importantly, we are not an non-union alter-ego carrier that was created to sidestep a current contract. I have no idea what the deal is worth or what ASA is getting paid but I doubt our price is low enough to be considered an under-cut. I could be wrong, though.

Someone in another forum made a good point - the 10 aircraft / 2 year (kinda short...) deal that XJT inked with DAL wasn't governed by the CAL CBA - IOW they could have done this for "at cost" just to place those planes. My guess is they wanted to do more (why only 10) but couldn't due to the CBA with CAL re:adjustment of rates etc.

Good news for XJT, but I wouldn't gloat too much. There are still some red flags. But overall, and I mean this sincerely, congrats! Now you can at least breathe a little easier! At least your company is winning RFP's...

what kind of routes will xjt get to fly out of lax, i know the mexico trips but what about the sf bay area cities?

I totally agree. It's good news for us but it's too bad that ASA will suffer because of it.

If your price is lower, you're undercutting. ASA's in the middle of contract negotiations and get undercut by another carrier. Nothing to jump for joy over, in my book.

Let me please qualify this, however. I'm not knocking XJT guys, I've got lots of friends over there hope the company does great. I do find it odd, though, when guys critique one co for getting flying from another company and then jump for joy at the same thing.

But, they're all doing it. What can you do?

OK it might be time to face the cold hard facts here - ExpressJet is just a better run operation than ASA at this point in time. SkyWest is also a very well run operation, very efficient, with good compensation, which is why they are continuing to win RFP's.

I work for a company that is expensive, not only in wages but in overall cost structure, which prevents them from winning these RFP's. Don't be jealous they are building a better mousetrap, that has nothing to do with undercutting.

I think that is taking the concept of "undercutting" a little too far. Yeah theoretically in its simplest form it may be. But we are not talking about Mesa or the likes winning some flying. When we are talking about one of the top end regionals winning flying i think it shows they are simply a better run company.

Let's see if I understand.... if Mesa offers to do some flying for a lower price than its competitors, then it's "undercutting", but if XJT does the exact thing with the Delta flying in LAX then it's not undercutting