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[Will congress repeal the 1500 hour rule?]
06-20-2017, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jrav8r
I'm glad you each had a constructive comment to add. Thanks for your input.
06-20-2017, 04:59 AM
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To play devils advocate...
Let's say it is repealed. What does it take on average to reach the minimums after getting your commercial? About 2 years, on average, is my guess. That's about all the additional supply the regionals would have. 2 years, and then virtually nothing after that because all the airline career focused instructors would have been long gone. So we would have to deal with 2 years of stagnate wages and work rules and declining moral.
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Let's say it is repealed. What does it take on average to reach the minimums after getting your commercial? About 2 years, on average, is my guess. That's about all the additional supply the regionals would have. 2 years, and then virtually nothing after that because all the airline career focused instructors would have been long gone. So we would have to deal with 2 years of stagnate wages and work rules and declining moral.
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06-20-2017, 12:02 PM
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The big problem is not the 1500 hours, but that you need the PIC checkride and not the SIC ride as of old.
For those coming out of 135 or another 121 that is not a big problem as the training will be familiar. but for those with 1500 hours of 172 flying for the $200.00 hamburger its a massif problem. Here is where the airline training will have to change. More basic training and sim rides.
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
my 5 cents
For those coming out of 135 or another 121 that is not a big problem as the training will be familiar. but for those with 1500 hours of 172 flying for the $200.00 hamburger its a massif problem. Here is where the airline training will have to change. More basic training and sim rides.
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
my 5 cents
06-20-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by malc4d
The big problem is not the 1500 hours, but that you need the PIC checkride and not the SIC ride as of old.
For those coming out of 135 or another 121 that is not a big problem as the training will be familiar. but for those with 1500 hours of 172 flying for the $200.00 hamburger its a massif problem. Here is where the airline training will have to change. More basic training and sim rides.
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
my 5 cents
For those coming out of 135 or another 121 that is not a big problem as the training will be familiar. but for those with 1500 hours of 172 flying for the $200.00 hamburger its a massif problem. Here is where the airline training will have to change. More basic training and sim rides.
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
my 5 cents
06-20-2017, 01:34 PM
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May be a good start training pilots with some sort of flight time as oppose to training pilots with no flight time. US airlines may need to get use to training pilots from scratch. While they're at it make the career/job more attractive or continue to circle the drain with one foot on a banana peel. Too many other careers/jobs pay better with better benefits!
06-20-2017, 01:47 PM
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This is wishful thinking at best. Remember the Colgan DHC-8 accident at Buffalo that killed all onboard? The victims families lobbied HARD for the 1500 hour rule. Not gonna be repealed any time soon IMHO.
06-20-2017, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by malc4d
The big problem is not the 1500 hours, but that you need the PIC checkride and not the SIC ride as of old.
For those coming out of 135 or another 121 that is not a big problem as the training will be familiar. but for those with 1500 hours of 172 flying for the $200.00 hamburger its a massif problem. Here is where the airline training will have to change. More basic training and sim rides.
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
my 5 cents
For those coming out of 135 or another 121 that is not a big problem as the training will be familiar. but for those with 1500 hours of 172 flying for the $200.00 hamburger its a massif problem. Here is where the airline training will have to change. More basic training and sim rides.
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
my 5 cents
06-20-2017, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by malc4d
Best would be repeal the PIC rating and change it to SIC and lets go back to 'learning the plane' on the job.
06-20-2017, 05:20 PM
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Losing the 1500 hour rule means more jobs, which this admin is after.
Chuck Schumer (D) is the father of the 1500 hour rule. A manufactured 'shortage' the doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania (R) is the author of the 2018 FAA authorization and pushing for privatized ATC, I could see 250 hours coming back also.
Chuck Schumer (D) is the father of the 1500 hour rule. A manufactured 'shortage' the doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania (R) is the author of the 2018 FAA authorization and pushing for privatized ATC, I could see 250 hours coming back also.
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