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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Look into the forecasts for the boomer retirements forthcoming. You will LEARN that there is a crisis on the horizon and the average $41K is not cutting it.

Here is another thing to consider when it comes to wages. When you see a statistic talking about average wages, consider that a great many people in this country don't earn a wage. They are small business owners or sole proprieters.

RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS PEOPLE! then maybe you will be able to negotiate something other than your pitiful $35K/yr.
Oh come on its simple.........................most take the abuse of the low regional pay becuase they think they will be at a "major" in a few years
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
I know, I love her..........................
i love you too, monkey boy and to mike: i live in chicago; the taxes, property, and costs here are outrageous, but 120k is plenty!
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Really? Check out the recruitment page for the San Jose police dept. http://www.joinsjpdblue.com/
At the top it says the top step officer pay is $107,835. I believe that is for patrol officers. I don't know how long it takes to get to the top step though. Also notice how they are actively recruiting guys to come over from other departments and offering credit for longevity. Retirements of 90% after 30 years and 70% after 25 years.

Don't get me wrong. I would not like to be a cop.
The Top Step Officer is the top of the payscale. They are probably in charge of the patrol unit, I would think the ranking would be somewhere around atleast a Lieutenant, but I'm not sure as it all depends on size of the Police Department. The bigger the department the more Sargeants and Lieutenants make, but the harder it is to become one.

Most Police Departments are willing to recruit officers from other Departments, because they already got through the Academy, so there is no chance of them dropping/failing out of training, since they went through the training.

As we progress in our careers shouldn't we expect to make detective, Lieutenant, chief or whatever. I would equate it to upgrade for pilots. (I know not everyone makes chief.)
Alot of things pop up that will hurt your chances at promotions. Similair to the Airlines, you have to know people, and be able to keep people on your side. There are alot of politics in Police Departments, all of which can make or break you. It also has to do with timing, if the top guys are not retiring, then there will be no upward movement, no promotions. Like I have said, realisiticly most Officers make it to Sargeant (in a medium sized Police department) before retiring. You also do not become a Police Officer because of the Pay and Benefits, because you will quickly realize that there is alot more to it than that, being a Police Officer is something you have to want to do, regardless of pay and benefits.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Look into the forecasts for the boomer retirements forthcoming. You will LEARN that there is a crisis on the horizon and the average $41K is not cutting it.

Here is another thing to consider when it comes to wages. When you see a statistic talking about average wages, consider that a great many people in this country don't earn a wage. They are small business owners or sole proprieters.

RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS PEOPLE! then maybe you will be able to negotiate something other than your pitiful $35K/yr.
Mike...You're asking too much...Just tell me how I can get my a$$ into a RJ and log jet time? Thats all I'm interested in. What you're asking for sounds a lot like self-respect and hard work..Show me the easy way.

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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Look into the forecasts for the boomer retirements forthcoming. You will LEARN that there is a crisis on the horizon and the average $41K is not cutting it.

Here is another thing to consider when it comes to wages. When you see a statistic talking about average wages, consider that a great many people in this country don't earn a wage. They are small business owners or sole proprieters.

RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS PEOPLE! then maybe you will be able to negotiate something other than your pitiful $35K/yr.
I am all for raising expectations and increasing pay, but what I am pointing out is that you do not need $200k to support a family of three in Seattle. Very few people make $200K, even with advanced degrees and the like.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
I am all for raising expectations and increasing pay, but what I am pointing out is that you do not need $200k to support a family of three in Seattle. Very few people make $200K, even with advanced degrees and the like.
I have buddies (Bankers in Manhatten) that spend that much on a car............................... I have other friends who make 100k doing some of the most rediculous useless jobs......................
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:50 PM
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What kind of lifestyle do most regional FO's live? Days on vs. days off for instance. Schedules? It can't be all bad or people wouldn't do it. I'm in the process of getting my private right now. I'm 29 and tired of taking X-Rays of broken people.
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What can one expect to make after 5 years in the business?
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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
Alot of things pop up that will hurt your chances at promotions. Similair to the Airlines, you have to know people, and be able to keep people on your side. There are alot of politics in Police Departments, all of which can make or break you.
Politics is one of the best things about being a pilot. I can't imagine how much BS you would have to put up with to "make it" in a political system.

Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Mike...You're asking too much...Just tell me how I can get my a$$ into a RJ and log jet time? Thats all I'm interested in. What you're asking for sounds a lot like self-respect and hard work..Show me the easy way.

-LAFF
I don't begrudge the guys for flying RJs for low pay. I have not figured out how to "fix" the system but I'm pretty sure a national seniority list or some such is part of the answer. I just don't like the idea of guys thinking $50k is great money.

Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
I am all for raising expectations and increasing pay, but what I am pointing out is that you do not need $200k to support a family of three in Seattle. Very few people make $200K, even with advanced degrees and the like.
I want more. I don't really think I deserve it so I'll have to demand it.
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Old 03-21-2007 | 05:01 PM
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Wait!!!??? Who kidnapped HotMamaPilot and replaced her with someone who actually makes sense??!!!
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Old 03-21-2007 | 05:04 PM
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If being a cop is so great I dont know why I've run into countless ex-cops here at the airlines - And by the way ex-cops make horrible sim instructors or checkairman.
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