Flow to Amer Airlines What the WOs Vs Reality
03-10-2021, 12:41 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
But to EVER get their pilot numbers up to where they once were the legacies are going to need to get their aircraft numbers up to where they once before the aircraft fleet retirements which is going to require they get more financing (ie., bond debt) and all of the Big Three currently have more debt than they’ve ever had and very low bond ratings, forcing the coupon in their bonds - that is, the debt service they will owe annually for the loan if the money - up into the 10-11% range.
03-10-2021, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by send a check
As someone waiting on a flow spot I see your post as very unfortunate and accurate.
The flow will come back, how soon and at what rate is anyones guess. There are so many variables that could effect it. I mean, prior to 2020, we were hiring and flowing like it was never going to end, yet here we sit.
If you are looking for advice, find people that can give you unbiased information backed up by experience, facts, sources or all of the above. I have come to really appreciate Excargodog , sanicom3205 rickair7777 CLE to IAH and several others. Does this mean I agree with everything they say, surely not, but you can use opinions as a barometer so long as you trust what is being said.
Anyway, got a little off track there, but don't lose hope on the flow, it will come back in some form or another. Hopefully, it comes back quickly and you will see this as "a small blip in human history".
Whatever you do, don't listen to a word from @TheDork
03-10-2021, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Excargodog , at least he backs up the statements with intelligence and sources. This game we are all playing is a crap shoot, the best we can all hope for is making the most educated decision we can with the data we have.
The flow will come back, how soon and at what rate is anyones guess. There are so many variables that could effect it. I mean, prior to 2020, we were hiring and flowing like it was never going to end, yet here we sit.
If you are looking for advice, find people that can give you unbiased information backed up by experience, facts, sources or all of the above. I have come to really appreciate Excargodog , sanicom3205 rickair7777 CLE to IAH and several others. Does this mean I agree with everything they say, surely not, but you can use opinions as a barometer so long as you trust what is being said.
Anyway, got a little off track there, but don't lose hope on the flow, it will come back in some form or another. Hopefully, it comes back quickly and you will see this as "a small blip in human history".
Whatever you do, don't listen to a word from @TheDork
The flow will come back, how soon and at what rate is anyones guess. There are so many variables that could effect it. I mean, prior to 2020, we were hiring and flowing like it was never going to end, yet here we sit.
If you are looking for advice, find people that can give you unbiased information backed up by experience, facts, sources or all of the above. I have come to really appreciate Excargodog , sanicom3205 rickair7777 CLE to IAH and several others. Does this mean I agree with everything they say, surely not, but you can use opinions as a barometer so long as you trust what is being said.
Anyway, got a little off track there, but don't lose hope on the flow, it will come back in some form or another. Hopefully, it comes back quickly and you will see this as "a small blip in human history".
Whatever you do, don't listen to a word from @TheDork
But seriously I do not see business travel returning to what it was and who knows about the viability of wide body flying in the aggregate? But American will shed 8000~ (ball park) pilots by 2030. So even if American shrinks by 20% in a worst case scenario then movement will delayed by 3 years from today tops.
Every generation faces something. In the scope of things COVID will be just a blip. Much like everything else.
Anyway happy flying. You have good info as well Cyio!!! I would add you to the list you posted!! Cheers.
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