THKooj

Go check out some of the surveys of the pipeline hopefuls trying to get into the partner universities. Well over 90% skews toward Envoy/AA. So, they already are.

ninerdriver

90% of the candidates who can't get into pilot universities want to be at Envoy? Sounds like a treat to me.

Excargodog

is this statement as accurate as the one about you getting military experience by having people shoot “blank tracers” at you? Because you still haven’t explained what a “blank tracers’ is and that’s coming from someone who has fired a lot of blanks and a lot of tracers but never a “blank tracer.”

THKooj

Let me re-phrase. Surveys from pipeline university RECRUITS from high school who are CHOOSING a university are ONLY interested in those where they can score an Envoy cadet slot.

Guppydriver95

so many posers, wanna be’s, pretenders, haters, and all around knuckleheads here. Gets tiresome reading some of the stuff people post who have zero knowledge of our industry.

123494

Yeah, it's no fun reading through all the garbage. It makes it harder to get the info you need and have a good discussion.

idlethrust

think you’ll see Delta and United create better-defined partnerships with select regionals as time goes on. They were marching that direction pre-Covid
United yes Delta Hell no

ninerdriver

Ohhh... I get it. So the pipeline hopefuls who end up at Envoy are the ones who couldn't get into universities.

Then, there are also pipeline university RECRUITS, who are different than the pipeline hopefuls. The RECRUITS go to high schools, which have to choose a pipeline university, which in turn must be different than a partner university that turned down all the Envoy candidates. These RECRUITS do surveys, and then they end up at Envoy.

So, the gold standard Envoy interview is really a high school survey. Okay. Makes American sound better everyday.

What is RECRUITS an anagram for?

TrojanCMH

Certain airline pilot unions still take pride in having a say in who they hire and will fight to have a seat at the interview table rather than just giving it away to some regional mid level manager looking to fill seats as quickly as possible.

Everyone thinking they should be given a seniority number at American because they’re at a wholly owned are delusional. If you’re on the same seniority list, you’re the same pilot group. How would this even work? This Envoy pipe dream is basically a B scale with fences.

Also if they give envoy new hires AA seniority numbers then they should give all military pilots the opportunity to get seniority numbers too. What’s fair is fair... I’m not military but come on, those guys have paid their dues just as much as a freshly hired 1500 hour CFI at a wholly owned. Why does some 23 year old cfi deserve a legacy seniority number but some guy who went the military route not? The flow is already the easiest path to a major. You guys have it so much easier than anyone in history in regards to getting to a major. No interviews, no BS job fair, no interview prep... Just wait and keep your nose clean, seems easy enough.

123494

THKooj knows what he's talking about, folks. You should all do yourselves a favor and listen.

Blank tracers or not, the pucker factor is real.