UAL J/S or any airline JS karma etiquette
08-31-2018, 08:15 PM
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UAL J/S or any airline JS karma etiquette
I’m sure there’s tons of past threads on jumpseating, but I’m gonna bring this up in-case it hasn’t or has happened to others.
So my understanding is UAL JS policy is all non-UAL pilots list at gate and it’s UAL, then first come-first serve priority among UAX pilots, then other offline. I’m UAX and first in line at the gate 1:10 mins prior at ORD, present myself to the counter only to be told by the agent that he isn’t working this gate and to check back when the “official” agent arrives. Behind me is an Air Wisc FO in uniform (me not in uniform but who cares), and at his turn he tells this agent he’s trying to do the same thing as me. We both step aside, part and wait (but you know jumpseaters are always sly-wonder-eying for others). 10 mins later they change gates...not a short walk lol. And guess who bolted & is now in front of me.
I was a bit irked. It wasn’t a dire situation cause I knew I would get on anyways, but had it been a battle of only 1 seat remains, who gets the seat based on first come? Maybe I really wasn’t first anymore? How does this jumseating game/battle work nowadays? (I’ve got lots of 121 time in a past life, took a break during the lost decade, and doing what everyone else is now with the positive industry trend). I would’ve had the professional courtesy to not be selfless because karma will bite me in the butt despite the urge to get home. Sigh...I guess I’ll have lots of great TMAAT answers at a mainline interview if they care. Is professional courtesy old school stuff that’s not understood nowadays??
So my understanding is UAL JS policy is all non-UAL pilots list at gate and it’s UAL, then first come-first serve priority among UAX pilots, then other offline. I’m UAX and first in line at the gate 1:10 mins prior at ORD, present myself to the counter only to be told by the agent that he isn’t working this gate and to check back when the “official” agent arrives. Behind me is an Air Wisc FO in uniform (me not in uniform but who cares), and at his turn he tells this agent he’s trying to do the same thing as me. We both step aside, part and wait (but you know jumpseaters are always sly-wonder-eying for others). 10 mins later they change gates...not a short walk lol. And guess who bolted & is now in front of me.
I was a bit irked. It wasn’t a dire situation cause I knew I would get on anyways, but had it been a battle of only 1 seat remains, who gets the seat based on first come? Maybe I really wasn’t first anymore? How does this jumseating game/battle work nowadays? (I’ve got lots of 121 time in a past life, took a break during the lost decade, and doing what everyone else is now with the positive industry trend). I would’ve had the professional courtesy to not be selfless because karma will bite me in the butt despite the urge to get home. Sigh...I guess I’ll have lots of great TMAAT answers at a mainline interview if they care. Is professional courtesy old school stuff that’s not understood nowadays??
08-31-2018, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lookmom
I’m sure there’s tons of past threads on jumpseating, but I’m gonna bring this up in-case it hasn’t or has happened to others.
So my understanding is UAL JS policy is all non-UAL pilots list at gate and it’s UAL, then first come-first serve priority among UAX pilots, then other offline. I’m UAX and first in line at the gate 1:10 mins prior at ORD, present myself to the counter only to be told by the agent that he isn’t working this gate and to check back when the “official” agent arrives. Behind me is an Air Wisc FO in uniform (me not in uniform but who cares), and at his turn he tells this agent he’s trying to do the same thing as me. We both step aside, part and wait (but you know jumpseaters are always sly-wonder-eying for others). 10 mins later they change gates...not a short walk lol. And guess who bolted & is now in front of me.
I was a bit irked. It wasn’t a dire situation cause I knew I would get on anyways, but had it been a battle of only 1 seat remains, who gets the seat based on first come? Maybe I really wasn’t first anymore? How does this jumseating game/battle work nowadays? (I’ve got lots of 121 time in a past life, took a break during the lost decade, and doing what everyone else is now with the positive industry trend). I would’ve had the professional courtesy to not be selfless because karma will bite me in the butt despite the urge to get home. Sigh...I guess I’ll have lots of great TMAAT answers at a mainline interview if they care. Is professional courtesy old school stuff that’s not understood nowadays??
So my understanding is UAL JS policy is all non-UAL pilots list at gate and it’s UAL, then first come-first serve priority among UAX pilots, then other offline. I’m UAX and first in line at the gate 1:10 mins prior at ORD, present myself to the counter only to be told by the agent that he isn’t working this gate and to check back when the “official” agent arrives. Behind me is an Air Wisc FO in uniform (me not in uniform but who cares), and at his turn he tells this agent he’s trying to do the same thing as me. We both step aside, part and wait (but you know jumpseaters are always sly-wonder-eying for others). 10 mins later they change gates...not a short walk lol. And guess who bolted & is now in front of me.
I was a bit irked. It wasn’t a dire situation cause I knew I would get on anyways, but had it been a battle of only 1 seat remains, who gets the seat based on first come? Maybe I really wasn’t first anymore? How does this jumseating game/battle work nowadays? (I’ve got lots of 121 time in a past life, took a break during the lost decade, and doing what everyone else is now with the positive industry trend). I would’ve had the professional courtesy to not be selfless because karma will bite me in the butt despite the urge to get home. Sigh...I guess I’ll have lots of great TMAAT answers at a mainline interview if they care. Is professional courtesy old school stuff that’s not understood nowadays??
09-01-2018, 07:32 AM
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My opinion... technically legal on his part, but tool move for sure. Time of check in is whoever is first line at the counter, at the right gate, when the right agent shows up. So he beat you on a technicality.
But reasonable etiquette is if someone is clearly at the gate before you, you should defer to them. Not always possible, if somebody was sitting in the back in civvies, but in that case he should have been hovering near the counter waiting for the agent to show.
I would have called him out. If it came down to it, I would have asked to speak to the CA.
But reasonable etiquette is if someone is clearly at the gate before you, you should defer to them. Not always possible, if somebody was sitting in the back in civvies, but in that case he should have been hovering near the counter waiting for the agent to show.
I would have called him out. If it came down to it, I would have asked to speak to the CA.
09-01-2018, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
I'm not UAL.
09-01-2018, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
Wasn't responding to you. The OP may want to chime in on UAL Jumpseat committees latest attempt to wrestle away jumpseat priority from us lowly regional scum on our own metal. Then maybe I will give two ****s about him losing a footrace to a ticket counter.
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