WB anything is pretty good QOL, unless you commute to reserve. Even then I know guys who simply own a nice condo in a nice location in base, so it's more like having two residences (you can afford that...).

Pay is so much more on WB, about the only good reason to stay NB FO would be if you have kids at home and need weekends/holidays off. Or if you just hate time zones.

 

Absolutely agree here. I talk to pilots of varying levels in their careers, and hear some of the butthurt and just have to laugh. In all reality..is it really that bad? Go be a cop in the ghetto for a couple years, then come back to me and tell me how bad it is. Yeah, you paid a lot to get where you are, and the money sucks for a bit, but there's upward mobility..simply based on SENIORITY. Nothing else. You name me a job that has that ability. Not many left.

 

Have to agree with many other posts here. Having worked my butt off in a few blue collar jobs (including working as an a&p) flying for a regional is by far the easiest, best QOL job I've had. If the biggest complaint you have is "there's only any Arby's and a TGI Fridays near the hotel, this overnight sucks!" You're doing well.

I think sometimes pilots lose sight of what we are doing. Think about how many of your peers who started flight training with you that couldn't finish due to medical or financial reasons. If you are healthy enough to hold a 1st class medical and employable enough to hold a job at a regional you've done quite well.

Does this mean I won't fight/vote for better QOL/pay in the next contract negotiations? Absolutely not. But I'm not going to sit here feeling sorry for myself while holding a job I worked hard to get to, and truly enjoy 95% of the time. This isn't conscription, nobody is holding a gun to your head. If you don't like it, find something you do like. We live in a wonderful country full of opportunity.

 

I love all the one upping going on here. Oh you think regionals suck?! You should try xxxxx. Oh you think having a raging case of syphilis sucks? You should try AIDS. Just because there are other things that suck doesnt mean regionals dont suck. Quit trying to one up everyone. Oh you say being in the present daymilitary sucks? That doesnt suck. Being on the russian front in the winter of '42 sucks!! Your nerf job in the army doesnt suck as much as that!

 

People are just bringing some perspective into the conversation. I don't think anyone here views this as a ****ing contest. Just a means to keep your feet on the ground

 

This thread sucks!

 

Especially if you were Russian

 

Which isn't the exception that proves the rule, merely a more vivid example. I recall back in my college days a paper some social anthropologist had written about "the decline of stoicism in American culture." It sounded kind of bogus to me but it was assigned reading so I read it. It was a review of all the daily journals that had been written by the Donner Party. Daily journals - apparently - were a big thing with the wagon train crowd to document their journey out to the West.

For those of you who never had to take California history as a high school graduation requirement, I'll give you some quick background.

The Donner Party was a wagon train going to California that got a late start, were slowed further by some rains and flooding, and got to Donner Pass about five or six six weeks later than they might have wished. An early blizzard hit and they got trapped there. Between avalanches and twenty-five foot drifts, you just can't move a Conestoga wagon. Some people died trying and were buried in the drifts. Trapped just short of safety, they had already gone through most of their supplies, so the oxen went first, then the mules, then the horses. Still starving and unable to move, they dug up their dead and ste them too.

The point is, in all the diaries, both of the ones who survived and the ones who didn't, there was no whining. There was no poor pitiful me. The researcher said the closest she came to whining was one entry where a survivor said that it had been "an uncommonly cold winter..."

Now I'm not trying to get into a contest as to who had things worse, but the point is that whining is unseemly. Cowboy up, Fer gawds sake.

If you don't want to be in a regional, go do something else. But don't whine incessantly. You're just coming across as a wuss.

 

Anytime anyone invests in anything in large amounts they will expect a certain return. If that doesn’t happen they will not be happy. You’re right it doesn’t matter if it’s fair or not. This is just the factual history of the airline industry. Educate yourself accordingly.

 

The Russian front was pleasant and fun, comrade. Please report to the Kremlin for reeducation.