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I think another strong indicator of what’s to come is keeping one’s finger on the pulse of major/legacy hiring competitive minimums. Right now they have tons of qualified applicants kicking down the doors, but I would suspect the competitive minimums will start to decrease in the coming years...
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I think the biggest question is the fate of all of these people hired by the regionals in the past few years. Will mainline take them with the background issues?
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Originally Posted by sflpilot
(Post 2733386)
I think the biggest question is the fate of all of these people hired by the regionals in the past few years. Will mainline take them with the background issues?
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Originally Posted by Bigdog2003
(Post 2733398)
What kind of background issues?
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Originally Posted by Bigdog2003
(Post 2733398)
What kind of background issues?
That's pretty much the question. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2733406)
The regional's in the past few years have accepted people with much less experience, less education, more training failures, more speeding tickets and/or other run-ins with the law, and similar issues than the majors have - historically - accepted in new hires. The regional's did that, of course, because they were desperate, but it seems unlikely that the majors will ever be that desperate. So will this group wind up permanently capped as captains in the regionals? Or will they be accepted by the majors?
That's pretty much the question. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2733406)
The regional's in the past few years have accepted people with much less experience, less education, more training failures, more speeding tickets and/or other run-ins with the law, and similar issues than the majors have - historically - accepted in new hires. The regional's did that, of course, because they were desperate, but it seems unlikely that the majors will ever be that desperate. So will this group wind up permanently capped as captains in the regionals? Or will they be accepted by the majors?
That's pretty much the question. |
Originally Posted by Bigdog2003
(Post 2732298)
So if the wave is over what would be the best decision:
1) sign up for a regional cadet program that offers a conditional job offer for once you reach ATP mins? 2) just keep plugging away and build hours and start throwing resumes out to all once you get close to the hours? Was really hoping that with the hiring that was going on it was going to keep up for another year and a half or so. |
Originally Posted by sflpilot
(Post 2733386)
I think the biggest question is the fate of all of these people hired by the regionals in the past few years. Will mainline take them with the background issues?
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2733406)
The regional's in the past few years have accepted people with much less experience, less education, more training failures, more speeding tickets and/or other run-ins with the law, and similar issues than the majors have - historically - accepted in new hires. The regional's did that, of course, because they were desperate, but it seems unlikely that the majors will ever be that desperate. So will this group wind up permanently capped as captains in the regionals? Or will they be accepted by the majors?
That's pretty much the question. I think standards will drop a bit, but what I have observed is that *some* folks with background issues can move beyond it, while others cannot. Factors include the nature and number of glitches, and where they fall in your timeline. A single glitch while young can be chalked up to a learning experience, as long as the lesson was learned. Even a pattern of glitches at a young age might be tolerable, with time passed and no recent occurrences. Issues at an older age (25+) are going to be more problematic, and they will want to see plenty of time passed, like ten years for anything significant like DUI. A pattern of of problems for older person is going to pretty much be a no-go for most majors (and some regionals). For those with issues, whether you can overcome the past depends also on how you address those past issues (get professional interview prep). Also you want to look like a great all-around professional pilot and person who just hit a speedpump in life, so multiple type ratings, TPIC, instructor duty, leadership, community involvement will all help of course. But at some point the majors will simply draw a hard line, and sponsor squeeky-clean kids via ab initio programs rather than keep lowering standards. I suspect that point is someone with legal issues as an older adult, or a pattern of issues over time. At some point they might simply prefer to slow growth or even park planes, but I don't know what their threshold really is for that. |
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