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Republic is late 2019 even to get hired
Endeavor is late 2019 even to get hired
Expressjet still has 5+ year upgrades
Skywest, maybe, but no flow so might get stuck for life.
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If you think the flow is a guarantee that you won't get stuck for life then you don't understand history or the industry very well.
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-QOL (schedule, contract, and living in a base)
-Money (straight path and soft time, no bonus BS)
-Upgrade time
-CPP/Flow
-Equipment
In priority order.
Pick your regional like you’re going to spend the rest of your career there. You probably won’t. But you just might. I fly with plenty of people who were in class at a major or even waiting on OE at one (got the type to show for it) when something happened and they ended up out of a job and back at the regional.
Hope for the best. Plan for the worst. Your career progression can fall apart in a day, with as little as one stroke of a pen. Pick a company you could spend the rest of your career with, and that you can come back to with seniority if the next step doesn’t pan out for whatever reason.
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-Money (straight path and soft time, no bonus BS)
-Upgrade time
-CPP/Flow
-Equipment
In priority order.
Pick your regional like you’re going to spend the rest of your career there. You probably won’t. But you just might. I fly with plenty of people who were in class at a major or even waiting on OE at one (got the type to show for it) when something happened and they ended up out of a job and back at the regional.
Hope for the best. Plan for the worst. Your career progression can fall apart in a day, with as little as one stroke of a pen. Pick a company you could spend the rest of your career with, and that you can come back to with seniority if the next step doesn’t pan out for whatever reason.
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You’re right that the flow is working now, but pilots are also getting hired everywhere at a faster rate than what the flow offers.
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I think the point he’s making is that if pilots start getting stuck at the regionals then that probably means the majors have stopped hiring in which case the flow would also come to a screeching halt.
You’re right that the flow is working now, but pilots are also getting hired everywhere at a faster rate than what the flow offers.
You’re right that the flow is working now, but pilots are also getting hired everywhere at a faster rate than what the flow offers.
Remember - I didn't bring it up. I suggested Envoy because of fast upgrades and no wait for a class date.
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Downside of flow is it tends to drive down pay rates and work rules relative to the rest of the industry. Whether or not the tradeoff is worth it depends on personal factors and how long you expect the flow to take.
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