The amount of crap flying at Envoy is substantially greater than the crap flying at Skywest. You can bid away from the crap pretty easy at Skywest with a little seniority where as the crap you get at Envoy is in senior bases and you can’t avoid it on the 145 or 700. Pretty easy at Skywest to bid avoid the 200 if you want and only do 700/900 flying.

Also how was that “your point exactly”. You made a quip about flying 15 min legs in a 200 like you were some how immune from it at Envoy, then turn around and say there is crap flying at both. So are you immune from 15 min legs or not?

 

Link to this DL statement?

 

Well, there's DEN-COS, MSP-RST, MSP-BRD, DTW-LAN, and perhaps others which come pretty close. I'm odd though - I like those legs (and the deuce), and really like hand flying the leg provided the other seat doesn't mind.

The DFW flying is pretty fun - it's all 700 as you mention - although there are moments. Are the three sets of skid marks still on the concrete by the E gates? I saw those happen while doing a walk around and haven't seen anything before or since quite so ... interesting.

 

It clearly went way over your head. It was a straw man pointed at the other poster, who said WO's can "never" have same QOL as OO/YX. Both regionals have their fair share of crap flying. If you're on the 175 at Envoy, there really isn't much of it though. And 175 isn't that senior. The most senior position, DFW 175 CA, is under 1yr 10 months to hold. Junior DFW 175 CA lineholder is right at 3 years.

People have ridiculously short memory here it seems. Not even 2 years ago, YX was a dumpster fire people tried to avoid at all cost, and 6-ish months ago OO was the lowest paid regional, by some margin. If you think you can predict what happens in the next 2 years, well, good for you.

 

Dera please stop making things up. Many people have told you that you are rewriting history to fit your narrative. Reflect on that. Thanks.

 

So instead of pointing out the mistakes, you just choose to make a blanket statement like that.

 

Envoy has substantially more crap flying than either OO or Republic. But even then, that’s not all that goes into QOL, and you guys sacrifice a ton of it for flow.

Yea things change all the time in this industry. Want to tell me whats changed at Envoy in the past few years that has made it so great?

 

Yep.... still there lol.

 

Lowest? Come now. You're just making yourself look silly.

 

I have no complaints about the QOL here. I don't think I'm sacrificing any of it for flow. I'll hold a line faster than I would at YX, and I live in base. What exactly am I sacrificing, since you clearly know more about my situation than I do?

Envoy has been pretty stable for the past 4-5 years or so. That's a great thing. I'm also 99% sure they won't be closing DFW as a base. That's great for me. We're also getting 2 new planes a month, doubling the 175 fleet, that's huge. You know, actually taking delivery of them.

YX is a great company now, everyone I know there is happy (apart from the people who are waiting for a class date for 8 months). But to say you can "never" have same QOL at a WO as you can at YX/OO, is not accurate. And that was the post I originally responded to, before everyone else jumped on it and completely lost the original point.